***************************************************************** DIGITAL GRAFFITI The Led Zeppelin Mailing List presents THE LED ZEPPELIN FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS LIST v8.1 9-29-94 ***************************************************************** Contents of this file: 1 - Common abbreviations found in this file and on Digital Graffiti. 2 - Administrivia. 3 - About Digital Graffiti. 4 - What should/shouldn't I post to the list? 5 - Who was in Led Zeppelin? 6 - How and when did John Bonham die? 7 - When and where was Led Zeppelin formed? 8 - What albums has Led Zeppelin released? 9 - What videos has Led Zeppelin released? 10 - Should I buy the boxed sets? Which one(s) should I buy? 11 - Will _The Song Remains The Same_ be remastered? 12 - So what _is_ the fourth album called, anyway? 13 - What's the deal with those four symbols? 14 - What's that thing on the _Presence_ cover? 15 - What's up with the album covers for _In Through The Out Door_? 16 - What's up with (song title) (and who's Roy Harper)? 17 - Are there a lot of references to J.R.R. Tolkien's work in Led Zeppelin songs? 18 - Didn't Led Zeppelin copy (song title) from (blues artist)? 19 - What's Led Zeppelin's best song/album? 20 - Is there any more unreleased material? 21 - How does the band feel about bootlegs? 22 - Where do I get bootlegs? 23 - Which bootlegs should I start with? 24 - Are there any books on Led Zeppelin? 25 - Are there any music books featuring Led Zeppelin? 26 - Are there any magazines/fanzines about Led Zeppelin? 27 - Are there any Led Zeppelin fan clubs? 28 - Where do I get Led Zeppelin collectibles (other than bootlegs)? 29 - Where can I get online lyrics, tabulature, GIFs, etc.? 30 - What did the members of Led Zeppelin do after the band broke up? 31 - Is Led Zeppelin getting back together? 32 - Upcoming releases from the members of Led Zeppelin. 33 - Upcoming tour dates and appearances. 34 - What albums has Jimmy Page released? 35 - What albums has Robert Plant released? 36 - What albums has John Paul Jones released? 37 - Who were the other artists on the Swan Song label? 38 - Are there any Led Zeppelin tribute bands? 39 - What's up with the Led Zeppelin tribute album? 40 - All about _The Song Retains The Name_ (I & II). 41 - Who is Dread Zeppelin and how does the band feel about them? 42 - Did Jimmy Page invent bowing (the guitar)? 43 - What's this "theramin" thing that Jimmy Page uses? 44 - Is Jimmy Page a Satanist? 45 - Are there backwards messages in "Stairway To Heaven"?
1 - Common abbreviations found in this file and on Digital Graffiti: BCOH = Baby Come On Home BTW = by the way C/P = Coverdale/Page FAQL = Frequently Asked Questions List FoN = Fate Of Nations HHWCID = Hey Hey What Can I Do HOTG = Hammer Of The Gods HOTH = Houses Of The Holy ICQYB = I Can't Quit You Baby IMHO = in my humble opinion IMTOD = In My Time Of Dying ITTOD = In Through The Out Door JPJ = John Paul Jones LZ = Led Zeppelin OTHAFA = Over The Hills And Far Away PP, P/P, or P^2 = Page/Plant RTFM = read the * manual (think about it) SIBLY = Since I've Been Loving You STH = Stairway To Heaven TCSR = The Complete Studio Recordings TSRTS = The Song Remains The Same WLL = Whole Lotta Love YFN = your friendly neighborhood
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3 - About Digital Graffiti. Digital Graffiti, the Led Zeppelin mailing list, was created by Matt Hill at Cornell University on 10 November 1992. Membership currently stands at over 300 worldwide. The first _known_ Led Zeppelin list was started by Mike Powers at Rutgers University in August 1989. That list was transferred to the University of Minnesota (Twin Cities campus) under the care of Eric Hendrickson in June 1990, where it resided for a time before becoming defunct. Digital Graffiti is unrelated to that list.
4 - What should/shouldn't I post to the list? This is an unmoderated list--that means there are no regulations (attached to this list) on what you post. However, the regular rules of net.conduct apply at all times. The list owner can remove any subscriber at any time for violating the general rules of conduct, in the (hopefully unlikely) event it becomes necessary. New subscribers should wait a few days before posting, so that they can see the general format other posters are using. Any news about Zeppelin, its members, its music, or related topics is welcome on the list. Transcriptions of articles and interviews are also welcome, assuming you want to take the (minimal) risk of transcribing without permission. Questions about Zeppelin and related topics are _also_ encouraged--there is almost always someone out there who can answer the question. Opinion is welcome on the list, as are reviews and commentary. A few topics and types of messages should _not_ appear on the list. It is possible that no one will _prevent_ you from discussing these topics, but there may exist strong sentiment against the topic from other list members: --Administrative requests. The correct address is in every FAQL, and is also posted periodically by the list owner. --Messages to individuals. Posts to the list should be of interest to nearly all readers. --Trades and sales of merchandise. Saying, "I have a vinyl copy of Jimmy Page's first single for sale" is fine, actually concluding the deal on the list is not. The same holds true for bootlegs-- limit the use of the list to just the initial offer of sale or trade, and conduct the balance of the deal over private email. Remember that while the discussion of bootlegs is _not_ illegal, the sale of them _is_ everywhere but Italy...and that some people (and some system administrators) frown upon their existence. Respect those people's wishes when considering trades of this nature. --Commercial postings. The list has an official policy on this, as stated by Matt Hill: "Individuals: If you have some CDs or other Zeppelin-related thing you'd like to sell, feel free to post a list--but only post it once. Please be sure to direct responses to your private email address, not the list. If you have a long list of items for sale, give a general description of them and tell people to email you privately for a complete list. This classification is meant for people who want to sell things they have bought for their own personal use, and no longer want. Think of it as a small 'virtual garage sale.' Commercial entities of any sort: If you have a quantity of a product that you think the members of this list would be interested in, write a _short_ ad for it and then submit it to email@example.com. Do NOT send it to the list at any point; if I think it would be of general interest, I will forward it to the list, retaining the right to edit all postings of this nature. Otherwise, I will return it to you." --"Flames"--posts unusually full of "fighting words" and personal attacks, _not_ intended to be humorous or ironic. There are also a few topics and types of messages that, while not exactly "unwelcome," may be either over-discussed or tiresome to the majority of the list. Feel free to post on these matters if you want, but remember that not everyone will share your enthusiasm: --Whether or not there are backwards messages in "Stairway To Heaven." --Whether or not Jimmy Page was a Satanist. --Discussions about the relative merits of Robert Plant and Jimmy Page. --Whether or not Jimmy Page has "lost it." --Polls of any kind, especially best/worst song/album. --A _long_ series of short messages, one topic per message--this kind of thing will annoy people. --Unattributed responses...posting a message that consists of "Yes." without quoting the question one is answering is obnoxious. --Almost any message that contains the word "sucks." --Any misspelling of the group's name. ;-) Use your own best judgement in each case--and certainly feel free to contribute to any such discussion if one is in progress. This is not a proscription, merely a warning.
5 - Who was in Led Zeppelin? James Patrick Page (b. 9 January 1944 in Heston, Middlesex) "Pagey" -- All guitars, effects, theramin, backing vocals. John Baldwin (John Paul Jones) (b. 3 January 1946 in Sidcup, Kent) "Jonesy" -- Bass, some guitars, keyboards, backing vocals. John Henry Bonham (b. 31 May 1948 in Redditch, Worcestershire, d. 25 September 1980 Windsor) "Bonzo" -- Drums and percussion, occasional backing vocals (as on "The Ocean.") Robert Anthony Plant (b. 20 August 1948 West Bromwich, Staffordshire) "Percy" -- Vocals, backing vocals. Zeppelin's manager was Peter Grant, and their road manager for the majority of their tours was Richard Cole. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 6 - How and when did John Bonham die? On 24 September 1980, Bonham left Worcestershire to meet with the group at Bray studios for rehearsals for the upcoming US tour. He consumed a steady diet of quadruple screwdrivers along the way. After the rehearsals, the band retreated to Page's Windsor house, where Bonham continued to drink and then passed out. At around 1:45pm on 25 September, sound technician and Plant roadie Benji Le Fevre checked on Bonham to find out why he hadn't stirred. There was no pulse. A doctor arrived and pronounced Bonham dead at the scene. A subsequent coroner's inquest revealed the cause of death to be accidental -- Bonham choked on his own vomit after drinking the equivalent of 40 measures of vodka. Alcohol poisoning may have been involved, but was not positively determined. On 4 December 1980, Led Zeppelin issued the following statement: "We wish it to be known that the loss of our dear friend and the deep respect we have for his family, together with the sense of undivided harmony felt by ourselves and our manager, have led us to decide that we could not continue as we were." ----------------------------------------------------------------- 7 - When and where was Led Zeppelin formed? A brief chronology: Jimmy Page joins The Yardbirds in June of 1966, first playing bass, then dual lead guitar with Jeff Beck, then replacing Beck in November of the same year. In December, John Paul Jones does string arrangements for The Yardbirds' album _Little Games_. In 1967, Robert Plant and John Bonham come together in The Band Of Joy. In March of the same year, Jeff Beck releases a solo single entitled "Hi Ho Silver Lining," which is backed with a Page composition entitled "Beck's Bolero". This song is recorded by Page, Beck, Nicky Hopkins, John Paul Jones, and Keith Moon. At this session Moon and John Entwistle, who are tired of The Who's infighting, discuss forming a band with Page and Beck. It is here that Moon announces that they should call the group Lead Zeppelin, because, "...it'll go over like a ***in' lead balloon!" (The "a" was later removed from "Lead" so that Americans would pronounce it correctly.) (John Entwistle claims that it was _he_, not Moon, who invented the name. Entwistle: "Led Zeppelin is a good name, isn't it? I made it up. Everybody says Keith Moon made it up, but he didn't. About four years ago I was realy getting fed up with the Who.... And I was talking with a fellow who is the production manager for the Led Zeppelin now. I was talking to him down in a club in New York. And I said, 'Yeah, I'm thinking of leaving the group and forming my own group. I'm going to call the group Led Zeppelin. And I'm going to have a an LP cover with like the Hindenburg going down in flames, and, you know, this whole business.' And like two months later he was working for Jimmy Page and, like, they were looking for a name, and so he suggested Led Zeppelin, and Page liked it, and they came out with the same LP cover that I'd planned." This "production manager" would have been Richard Cole, which suggests that Cole was responsible for naming Led Zeppelin. However, in the absence of definitive proof either way the Keith Moon version will stand.) In April of 1968, Page plays on Donovan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man" (with Jones arranging). Jones asks to be part of any new group Page may be forming. The Band Of Joy breaks up in May. On 22 June 1968, it is announced that Keith Relf and Jim McCarty are leaving The Yardbirds. In August, Page, Yardbirds' bassist Chris Dreja, and Peter Grant travel to Birmingham to see Plant in a group called Hobbstweedle. Plant is offered the vocalist's job in Page's new band in August, after visiting Page's home. In the same month, Dreja leaves the project and is replaced by Jones. Plant then recommends Bonham for drums, and a tireless personal and telegram campaign convinces Bonham to turn down more lucrative offers from the likes of Tim Rose and Joe Cocker. In September, the four play their first rehearsals at Gerrard Street, London. Beginning September 14 they embark on their first tour, still billed as the New Yardbirds. They record _Led Zeppelin I_ in October, and play their first gig as Led Zeppelin at Surrey University October 17. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 8 - What albums has Led Zeppelin released? This discography follows the format: _Title_ (release date) Label (artist, if not the subject of the discography) Song Title One, Song Title Two... A list of videos. Any other relevant information. The following is by no means a complete discography, but covers the principal releases of the band in the US. Singles are, in all but one case, ignored. For a more complete discography consult Dave Lewis' _A Celebration_. _Led Zeppelin_ (January 1969) Atlantic Good Times Bad Times, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, You Shook Me, Dazed & Confused, Your Time Is Gonna Come, Black Mountain Side, Communication Breakdown, I Can't Quit You Baby, How Many More Times _Three Week Hero_ (April 1969) Liberty/Beat Goes On (P.J. Proby) Jim's Blues This album is noted because all four members of Zeppelin appear on the listed track. _Led Zeppelin II_ (October 1969) Atlantic Whole Lotta Love, What Is And What Should Never Be, The Lemon Song, Thank You, Heartbreaker, Livin' Lovin' Maid (She's Just A Woman), Ramble On, Moby Dick, Bring It On Home This album is sometimes called "The Brown Bomber"--a reference to the color and theme of the cover. _Led Zeppelin III_ (October 1970) Atlantic Immigrant Song, Friends, Celebration Day, Since I've Been Loving You, Out On The Tiles, Gallows Pole, Tangerine, That's The Way, Bron-Y-Aur Stomp, Hats Off To (Roy) Harper On some pressings of this album, an Aleister Crowley quote is scribed into the runoff matrix of the vinyl (the space between the last groove and the label). There are also some forged versions of this pressing. "Immigrant Song" b/w "Hey Hey What Can I Do" (1970) Atlantic US Single This exists on cassingle and CD single as well. _Untitled_ (November 1971) Atlantic Black Dog, Rock And Roll, The Battle Of Evermore, Stairway To Heaven, Misty Mountain Hop, Four Sticks, Going To California, When The Levee Breaks The original album had no band or title identification anywhere on the cover _or_ inside, with the exception of the "Produced by Jimmy Page" credit on the inside jacket and the printed lyrics to "Stairway To Heaven." _Untitled_ (September 1988) HMV Classic Collection 3500-copy limited edition boxed version of the fourth album. _The New Age Of Atlantic_ (May 1972) Atlantic (various artists) Hey Hey What Can I Do _Houses Of The Holy_ (March 1973) Atlantic The Song Remains The Same, The Rain Song, Over The Hills And Far Away, The Crunge, Dancing Days, D'yer Mak'er, No Quarter, The Ocean The odd colors on this album cover are a printing error. _Physical Graffiti_ (February 1975) Swan Song Custard Pie, The Rover, In My Time Of Dying, Trampled Underfoot, Houses Of The Holy, Kashmir, In The Light, Bron-Yr-Aur, Down By The Seaside, Ten Years Gone, Night Flight, The Wanton Song, Boogie With Stu, Black Country Woman, Sick Again The building on the cover is at 97 St. Mark's Place in New York City. There is currently a used clothing store in the basement called Physical Graffiti. _Presence_ (April 1976) Swan Song Achilles Last Stand, For Your Life, Royal Orleans, Nobody's Fault But Mine, Candy Story Rock, Hots On For Nowhere, Tea For One _Soundtrack From The Film The Song Remains The Same_ (October 1976) Swan Song Rock And Roll, Celebration Day, The Song Remains The Same, The Rain Song, Dazed And Confused, No Quarter, Stairway To Heaven, Moby Dick, Whole Lotta Love _In Through The Out Door_ (August 1979) Swan Song In The Evening, South Bound Suarez, Fool In The Rain, Hot Dog, Carouselambra, All My Love, I'm Gonna Crawl _Coda_ (November 1982) Swan Song We're Gonna Groove, Poor Tom, I Can't Quit You Baby, Walter's Walk, Ozone Baby, Darlene, Bonzo's Montreaux, Wearing And Tearing _Led Zeppelin_ (4CD boxed set) (October 1990) Atlantic Selections from the studio albums, with the addition of "Hey Hey What Can I Do," a live in-studio "White Summer/Black Mountain Side," a live in-studio "Traveling Riverside Blues," and a Page amalgamation of "Moby Dick" and "Bonzo's Montreaux". All tracks remastered from the lowest-generation tapes available by Jimmy Page and George Marino. Videos for "Over The Hills And Far Away" and "Traveling Riverside Blues" were released. The videos are a mixture of conceptual footage and carefully edited clips from a variety of live videos (some clearly _not_ from _The Song Remains The Same_--such as the Knebworth footage). _Remasters_ (2CD boxed set) (October 1990) Atlantic The non-US version of the 4CD set, later released in the States. Condensed "greatest hits" package of the remastered material, with the addition of "Good Times Bad Times" (not on the 4CD set). Some editions contain _Profiled_, an interview with the band. _Boxed Set 2_ (2CD boxed set) (September 1993) Atlantic Remastered versions of all the material not on the 4CD set, plus "Baby Come On Home," an unreleased track from the _I_ sessions. _Led Zeppelin--The Complete Studio Recordings_ (10CD boxed set) Atlantic (September 1993) Remastered versions of the original 9 studio recordings with the original cover art, in a case. All the "previously unreleased" material appearing on the other sets is tacked on to the end of _Coda_, with the exception of the "Moby Dick"/ "Bonzo's Montreaux" marriage. The cover depicts the inside of a Zeppelin. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 9 - What videos has the band released? This videography will cover major, _legal_ releases. Videos listed in quotations do not appear in any known compilations. Led Zeppelin: ------------- _The Song Remains The Same_ (1976--released 1984) Warner Video Autumn Lake, Bron-Y-Aur, Rock And Roll, Black Dog, Since I've Been Loving You, The Song Remains The Same, The Rain Song, Stairway To Heaven, Dazed And Confused, Moby Dick, Heartbreaker, Whole Lotta Love, Stairway To Heaven Directed by Joe Massot and Peter Clifton, recorded live at Madison Square Garden July 27, 28, and 29, 1973, and at various locations. Released to theaters in 1976. It may be reworked in the future. Page: "I wouldn't mind paying some attention to the laser disc and video, as well." _Supershow_ (September 1986) Virgin Vision (various) Dazed And Confused Recorded live at Staines Studios on March 25, 1969. More songs were probably performed, but remain unreleased. _Rock Aid Armenia_ (November 1989) Virgin Video (various) Dazed & Confused, Satisfaction Guaranteed "Dazed" is from the Supershow footage, "SG" is from the Firm. _The First Cuts_ (1990) Outtakes from TSRTS. Recalled. "Over The Hills And Far Away" (October 1990) Atlantic Video "Traveling Riverside Blues" (October 1990) Atlantic Video These videos are a mixture of conceptual footage and carefully- edited clips from a variety of live videos (some clearly _not_ from _The Song Remains The Same_--such as the Knebworth footage). Jimmy Page: ----------- _Royal Albert Hall ARMS Concert Part 2_ (1983) Videoform (various) Prelude, Who's To Blame, City Sirens, Stairway To Heaven, Tulsa Time, Layla, Goodnight Irene Part of a two tape set, Page appears on the above tracks. Also see below. "Sea Of Love" (November 1984) Atlantic Video (The Honeydrippers) Page does not actually appear in the video. _The Firm Live At Hammersmith 1984_ (1985) Atlantic Video (The Firm) Live footage from two Firm dates in December 1984. Promo only-- was not released for sale. "These Arms Of Mine" (1985) Decca (Willie & The Poorboys) _Five From The Firm_ (1986) Atlantic Home Video (The Firm) Tear Down The Walls, Satisfaction Guaranteed, All The King's Horses, Radioactive, Live In Peace Extremely hard to find, even when it was new. "Wasting My Time" (June 1988) Geffen Video _Knebworth: The Event Vol. 3_ (1990) Castle Video (various) Wearing And Tearing, Rock And Roll Part of a longer concert, Page appears on the listed tracks. _The ARMS Concert_ (1991) Rhino (various artists) Prelude, Who's To Blame, City Sirens, Stairway To Heaven, Tulsa Time, Layla, Goodnight Irene A single-tape version of the one listed above. Page appears on the listed tracks. "Pride & Joy" (March 1993) Geffen Video (Coverdale/Page) "Take Me For A Little While" (July 1993) Geffen Video (Coverdale/Page) Robert Plant: ------------- "Little Sister" (January 1980) Swan Song/Atlantic Video (Rockpile) Live performance from the Rock For Kampuchea concert. "Burning Down One Side" (June 1982) Swan Song/Atlantic Video _Prince's Trust Rock Gala_ (1984) MGA/UA (various artists) Worse Than Detroit, I Wanna Take You Higher Part of a longer concert, Plant appears on the listed tracks. "Sea Of Love" (November 1984) Atlantic Video (The Honeydrippers) "Rockin' At Midnight" (November 1984) Atlantic Video (The Honeydrippers) "Pink & Black" (May 1985) Atlantic Video "Heaven Knows" (March 1988) Atlantic Video "Ship Of Fools" (March 1988) Atlantic Video _Mumbo Jumbo_ (1989) Warner Video Heaven Knows, Big Log, Little By Little, In The Mood, Tall Cool One (plus additional footage) "Hurting Kind (I've Got My Eyes On You)" (March 1990) Atlantic Video "Nirvana" (March 1990) Atlantic Video _Knebworth: The Event Vol. 3_ (1990) Castle Video (various) Hurting Kind, Tall Cool One, Wearing And Tearing, Rock And Roll Part of a longer concert, Plant appears on the listed tracks. _The Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert_ (1992) Buena Vista Home Video (various) Kashmir intro, Crazy Little Thing Called Love Plant also performed Thank You and Innuendo, though they do not appear on the video. "Calling To You" (June 1993) Atlantic Video "29 Palms" (1993) Atlantic Video "I Believe" (1993) Atlantic Video John Paul Jones: ---------------- _Give My Regards To Broad Street_ (1988) CBS Fox (movie) Jones appears in the "Ballroom Dancing" segment. "Do You Take This Man?" (September 1994) Mute Video (Diamanda Galas & John Paul Jones) ----------------------------------------------------------------- 10 - Should I buy the boxed sets? Which one(s) should I buy? The sound quality of the newly remastered material is incredibly improved over the original US CD releases. For that reason alone any of them are worth getting. And the combination of the two principal sets _or_ the "complete" set gives one all the studio material in remastered form. As for the "unreleased" material-- "HHWCID" is available on the "Immigrant Song" single, "Traveling Riverside Blues" is a staple of AOR radio, and there are many versions of "White Summer" superior to the one released on the set, so that should not be the deciding factor. The packaging of the sets, from cover art to liner notes, is incredible. However, the release of the newly-remastered "original" CDs has made this choice a difficult one. Basically, it comes down to the presence of the "unreleased" material (which does _not_ appear on the individually remastered _Coda_), a choice of packaging, and the order in which one wants to hear the songs. The cost of getting one of the boxed set combinations will almost assuredly be less than the eventual total cost of the individual CDs. The purchase of the original, unremastered CDs is not recommended due to their poor sound quality. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 11 - Will _The Song Remains The Same_ be remastered? Atlantic said no. However--Page: "That will be done in the future." ----------------------------------------------------------------- 12 - So what _is_ the fourth album called, anyway? Nothing. It's officially untitled. It's commonly referred to as Four Symbols, ZOSO, and most often simply Led Zeppelin IV. The album, as originally released, carried absolutely no band or title identification anywhere on the jacket. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 13 - What's the deal with those four symbols? Page's symbol, while _not_ standing for "ZOSO" or any combination of letters, is a mystery. It resembles the alchemical symbol for mercury, but no more is known. Plant reports being once told what it meant, but he has since forgotten. Jones' symbol (the circle with the trisecting ovals) came from a book of runes and is said to represent confidence and competence. It also appears on the cover of a book about the Rosicrucians, for reasons unknown. Bonham's (the three intersecting circles) came from the same book, and represents the man-wife-child trilogy. Some have remarked that it is the symbol for Ballantine Beer. Plant, like Page, designed his own symbol, and the feather in the circle is based on a sign of the ancient Mu civilization. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 14 - What's that thing on the _Presence_ cover? It's called either The Obelisk or The Object, and was created by Hipgnosis (the design company) to represent Led Zeppelin's "force and presence." It was not intended as a reference to the Monolith of _2001_, though the resemblance has been noted by many; including Page himself. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 15 - What's up with the album covers for _In Through The Out Door_? There are 6 different covers, each showing the same scene from a different point of view. The album originally came in a plain brown wrapper. An added bonus -- the inner sleeve, when dampened, changes color. In case it wasn't obvious, this refers only to the vinyl versions of the album. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 16 - What's up with (song title) (and who's Roy Harper)? A few notes about individual songs: "How Many More Times" -- This is one of three songs in which Page employs the bow. There is a brief tribute/reference/inside joke during the long instrumental section where the band plays part of the Page-written "Beck's Bolero." "Dazed And Confused" -- The Yardbirds performed this with different lyrics as "I'm Confused". The guitar solo following the bow section is Page's solo from the Yardbirds' "Think About It." The second of the three songs on which Page employs the bow. "Black Mountain Side" -- Viram Jasani plays tabla. "Whole Lotta Love" -- The "middle section" was created with the theremin, some recorded drums, vocal gymnastics from Plant (heavily filtered through various effects), and a lot of random knob-twisting by Page and Eddie Kramer in the studio. "Out On The Tiles" -- The title is British slang for "a night on the town." It is Page that can be heard saying "stop!" in this song, reminding himself to stop playing. "Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" -- Roy Harper is an English folk musician who toured (though didn't perform) with Zeppelin and with whom Page and other Zeppelin members have worked, recorded, and toured. He is probably best known for his lead vocal on Pink Floyd's "Have A Cigar." "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp" -- "Bron-Y-Aur" is a misspelling of Bron-Yr-Aur. "Friends" -- The synth drone at the end covers a production mistake (the original intro to "Celebration Day" was erased.) The strings in the song are real. "Since I've Been Loving You" -- Bonham's bass drum pedal squeaks during much of this song (it's especially annoying during the intro). "Tangerine" -- This was a Page composition left over from the Yardbirds days. "Black Dog" -- The title came from a black dog that wandered in and out of the studio during the _IV_ sessions. "The Battle Of Evermore" -- Sandy Denny (of Fairport Convention) on vocals. Her parts were handled live by John Paul Jones. "Misty Mountain Hop" -- Yes, there is a mistake in this song, (in the line that begins "There you sit..."), though the band apparently felt the rest of the take was too good to replace. "Four Sticks" -- Bonham used 4 sticks while recording this song (two in each hand) hence the title. "When The Levee Breaks" -- The drum sound was produced by placing Bonham's kit in a stone stairwell, and hanging a microphone from the stairs a few flights up. "D'yer Mak'er" -- pronounced like Jamaica. "The Rain Song" -- The "strings" on this song are actually a Mellotron. "The Ocean" -- There is a phone ringing at about 1:37 in. Don't ask why. The countoff at the beginning is Bonham: "We've done four already, but now we're steady, and then they went: one, two, three, four." "Kashmir" -- There are keyboards on this song, but there are also real strings and horns. "Black Country Woman" -- The sound from an overhead plane was not removed from the intro, thanks to Plant's audible "No, leave it in." "Bron-Yr-Aur" -- A cabin where Zeppelin often retreated for composition and relaxation. It means "The Golden Breast". The unusually "thick" guitar sound is a combination of an open tuning and clever use of backward echo. "Boogie With Stu" -- Stu is Ian Stewart, the Stones resident pianist. "In The Evening" -- The third song in which Page employs the bow. The unusual noises in the guitar solo are caused by the springs of a fully-depressed whammy bar. The intro is based on Page's work for the _Lucifer Rising_ soundtrack. "All My Love" -- The strings and horn sounds are all synths. "I Can't Quit You Baby" -- The live version on Coda is from the Royal Albert Hall performance (widely available on bootleg video)--_not_ the rehearsal as is sometimes claimed. "Darlene" -- Jones (not Ian Stewart) plays the piano. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 17 - Are there a lot of references to J.R.R. Tolkien's works in Led Zeppelin songs? Not really. "Ramble On" and "The Battle Of Evermore" feature direct references, as does the title "Misty Mountain Hop," but that's it. There is no apparent link between Tolkien's work and "Stairway To Heaven." ----------------------------------------------------------------- 18 - Didn't Led Zeppelin copy (song title) from (blues artist)? Yes, no, and maybe. Here's a partial list of covers, credited and otherwise, and sources. Thanks to _Wearing & Tearing_, Glen Cunliffe, Christopher Williams, _Proximity_, Hugh Jones, Bill Bratton, and Colin Harper for much of the info in this section. "Train Kept A Rollin'" -- Written by Tiny Bradshaw, L. Mann, and H. Kay, first recorded by Bradshaw's Big Band in 1951. Rewritten as a rockabilly tune in 1956 and recorded by the Johnny Burnette Trio (whose guitarist, Paul Burlison, was an influence on Jeff Beck and inspired him to cover the tune with the Yardbirds). The Yardbirds recorded both the "original" tune and a rewritten version called "Stroll On" (the lyrics were modified to avoid copyright hassles) in Michaelangelo Antonioni's film _Blow Up_, which features the Beck/Page-era Yardbirds imitating the Who. The original version was often played live by Zeppelin, and is often mistakenly attributed to the Yardbirds, which is why it is included here. "White Summer" -- Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair." "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" -- Anne Bredon (a/k/a Annie Briggs) (the Joan Baez version was the one this was based on). "You Shook Me" -- Willie Dixon, first recorded by Muddy Waters. "I Can't Quit You Baby" -- Willie Dixon. "Communication Breakdown" -- Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown." "How Many More Times" -- Howlin Wolf's "How Many More Years," Albert King's "The Hunter," Zeppelin's version is lyrically related to a cover called "How Many More Times" by Gary Farr and the T-Bones (liner notes by Giorgio Gomelsky, one-time producer of The Yardbirds). Zeppelin's particular arrangement grew from the live jams on "Smokestack Lightning" that the Page-led Yardbirds used to do. "Dazed And Confused" -- Jake Holmes, written and recorded as "Dazed & Confused." The Yardbirds covered it under the title "I'm Confused," with different lyrics. Page again changed the lyrics (which were originally about an acid trip) for the Zeppelin version. The version on the _Session Man_ album (on Archive) credited to the New Yardbirds is actually the Holmes original. Page: "I don't know about all that. I'd rather not get into it because I don't know all the circumstances. What's he got, the riff or whatever? Because Robert wrote some of the lyrics on that album. But he was only listening to...we extended it from the one that we were playing with the Yardbirds. I haven't heard Jake Holmes so I don't know what it's all about anyway. Usually my riffs are pretty damn original [laughs]. What can I say?" "Black Mountain Side" -- traditional, Annie Briggs, Bert Jansch The main riff is almost identical to the riff Jansch uses in his song "BlackWater Side," though he cites Annie Briggs as an earlier source. Page: "I wasn't totally original on that riff. It had been done in folk clubs a lot. Annie Briggs was the first one that I heard do that riff. I was playing it as well, and then there was Bert Jansch's version." The DADGAD tuning used here and on "White Summer," "Kashmir," "Swan Song" (see the unreleased section), and "Midnight Moonlight" was supposedly invented by Davey Graham, though whether or not Page knew this is unclear. "The Lemon Song" -- Chester Burnett (a/k/a Howlin Wolf) "Killing Floor," Robert Johnson ("squeeze my lemon" lyric). In some early concerts and on some pressings of _II_, the song was actually called "Killing Floor." ARC Music filed a suit against Zeppelin in the early 70's, which was settled out of court. Ironically, the "squeeze my lemon" lyric was lifted by Johnson as well--from Art McKay ("She Squeezed My Lemon"--1937). "Moby Dick" -- Bobby Parker (music), Ginger Baker's "Toad" (drum solo). The song was originally entitled "The Girl I Love," which was written in 1929 by Sleepy John Estes and called "The Girl I Love, She Got Long Curly Hair." There are also some drum lines lifted intact from George Suranovich's drum solo with Arthur Lee's Love's song "Doggone." "Whole Lotta Love" -- Willie Dixon's "You Need Love" (lyrics). Plant: "Page's riff was Page's riff. It was there before anything else. I just thought, 'well, what am I going to sing?' That was it, a nick. Now happily paid for. At the time, there was a lot of conversation about what to do. It was decided that it was so far away in time (it was in fact 7 years) and influence that...well, you only get caught when you're successful. That's the game." Willie Dixon sued Zeppelin (actually friends of his at the time) in 1985 when his daughter noticed the resemblance--though by this time, Zeppelin has sold the rights to their international catalog and knew _in advance_ of the suit, which was filed only _after_ the sale had been completed. "Thank You" -- There is a striking chordal similarity to Traffic's "Dear Mr. Fantasy." There is an intriguing rumor that Page is actually the guitarist on the Traffic song, though no one involved has confirmed this. "Bring It On Home" -- Written by Willie Dixon, though the Sonny Boy Williamson II version is the one which this bears a similarity to. The "Lemon Song" lawsuit also included language about this song. "Traveling Riverside Blues" -- Johnny Winter's "Leavin' Blues" (music only), plus lyrical references to Robert Johnson, St. Louis Jimmy Oden, and Sleepy John Estes. "Since I've Been Loving You" -- brief lyrical nod to Moby Grape's "Never." "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp" -- intro lifted from "The Waggoner's Tale" by Bert Jansch. "Gallows Pole" -- traditional, associated with Leadbelly. Page says that his version was based on a cover of the song by Fred Gerlach. "Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" -- traditional, Bukka White (song entitled "Shake 'Em On Down"), also covered by Joe Lee Williams and Blind Lemon Jefferson. "Black Dog" -- the vocal arrangement is very similar to Fleetwood Mac's "Oh Well." "Rock And Roll" -- drawn from Little Richard's "Good Golly Miss Molly/Keep A Knockin'" (mostly the drum line). "Stairway To Heaven" -- Possible (though unlikely) lift from "And She's Lonely" by The Chocolate Watch Band, which became the intro chords. There's really no way of knowing for sure. The solo chords are also similar to the chords of Dylan's (and Hendrix's) "All Along The Watchtower," though the chord progression is hardly uncommon and any direct influence is also unlikely. A more believable lift might be from Spirit's "Taurus," an instrumental from their _Time Circle_ album--the intro from "Stairway" is remarkably similar, and Page and Plant were certainly aware of the band. "When The Levee Breaks" -- Memphis Minnie and Kansas Joe McCoy. _Physical Graffiti_ -- The album cover is identical in concept and very similar in design to the cover of the Jose Feliciano album _Compartments_, including the pull-out card and the "hidden" photos. "Custard Pie" -- Sleepy John Estes did a song entitled "Drop Down Daddy" in 1935, which seems to be the earliest source for this material. Blind Boy Fuller recorded a song entitled "I Want Some Of Your Pie" in 1939. Sonny Terry covered it with the title "Custard Pie Blues." Big Joe Williams also covered it under the title "Drop Down Mama," and his lyrics are pretty much identical to Plant's. There is also some Bukka White material in the song. "In My Time Of Dying" -- Traditional. First recorded by Blind Willie Johnson as "Jesus Make Up My Dying Bed," which is more like the Zeppelin version than the well-known Bob Dylan cover. Plant has cited Josh White's 1933 "Jesus Make Up My Dying Bed" as the source for Zeppelin's version. A much closer version appears on the self-titled album by the Canadian band Fear Itself, whose "In My Time OF Dying" is credited to Ellen McIlwaine, the band's lead singer and slide guitarist. Besides many musical and length similarities, the Fear Itself version ends with the line, "My dying...cough." "Boogie With Stu" -- Ritchie Valens. Page: "The jam [with Ian Stewart] turned into 'Boogie With Stu,' which was obviously a variation on 'Ooh My Head' by the late Ritchie Valens, which itself was actually a variation of Little Richard's 'Ooh My Soul.' What we tried to do was give Ritchie's mother credit, because we heard she never received any royalties from any of her son's hits, and Robert did lean on that lyric a bit. So what happens? They tried to sue us for all of the song! We had to say 'bugger off.'" The Valens song bears a strong similarity to Memphis Minnie's "I Called You This Morning." "Nobody's Fault But Mine" -- Blind Willie Johnson (lyrics). Plant: "First of all, it's public domain because he's been dead so long, and secondly it wasn't his song in the first place--nobody knows where it comes from." "In The Evening" -- James Carr has a song called "In the Evening, When The Sun Goes Down." The music is not similar. "We're Gonna Groove" -- Ben E. King, James Bethea. "Darlene" -- One line from Don McLean's "American Pie." So is this theivery? Yes, no and maybe. ;-) They _did_ steal a few things outright--like "Dazed And Confused" (stolen by the Yardbirds, actually)--but anyone who understands the blues tradition knows that this sort of "borrowing" goes on all the time. Willie Dixon may have been more savvy about copyrights than his counterparts, but he was no stranger to plagiarism himself. Many of the "songs" Dixon copyrighted could be considered public domain. And in the end, most of Zeppelin's "lifts" were eventually paid for. Besides, as was the case with "Traveling Riverside Blues," the Zeppelin version often bore little (if any) resemblance to the original. Page: "...Robert was supposed to change the [lyrics], and he didn't always do that--which is what brought on most of our grief." [...] "So, anyway, if there is any plagiarism, just blame Robert! (laughs)" ----------------------------------------------------------------- 19 - What's Zeppelin's best song/album? This is a purely subjective opinion -- there's no right answer. Albums -- _IV_ has sold the most copies, though it never hit #1 (it was behind Carole King's _Tapestry_). Critics and fans usually pick either _IV_ or _Physical Graffiti_ as the best, though the album most often cited by musicians as being influential in their early development is _II_. Plant's favorite is _Physical Graffiti_. Songs -- "Stairway To Heaven" is one of the most-requested and most-played rock songs of all time. It was never released as a single, so comparisons to "I Will Always Love You" (by Whitney Houston--the biggest-selling single of all time) are not applicable. The band seems to feel that "Kashmir" captures their essence better than any other song, though Page and Jones profess abiding love for "Stairway To Heaven," and Page is particularly proud of "Achilles Last Stand." Plant loathes "Stairway." ----------------------------------------------------------------- 20 - Is there any more unreleased material? There are very few (if any) unreleased _studio_ Zeppelin songs, as most of the extras appeared on _Physical Graffiti_, _Coda_, and the boxed sets. There are quite a few jams and alternate takes floating around, however. _Nirvana_ reported the existence of a few more unreleased tracks, which had found their way to the band through a third-party. As far as professionally-recorded live audio and video, most of this still resides in Page's vaults, though many of the soundboard bootlegs of the past few years were mastered from tapes stolen from Page's house. The 1977 tour in particular is known to be pretty thoroughly recorded. Page: "We also have live tapes going back to 1970, that go all the way through Knebworth in 1979." This long-rumored Page-produced live retrospective is unlikely to appear. George Marino of Sterling Sound is quoted about Page's attitude toward releasing live material -- "Even if they were guaranteed to sell a million of a live thing, I don't think he'd put it out if he didn't feel that the playing was good enough." Page has recently expressed some interest in releasing live material (audio and video), but Plant has killed the idea. Page: "...but Robert has never been keen on doing it. You can't very well do it if someone is vetoing the bloody thing. It's a lot of work to go through all these tapes, and I'm not going to do it if he's going to stop it." However, the fate of one particular outtake _is_ known. In his essay for the boxed set, Cameron Crowe mentioned the "unreleased 'Swan Song,'" a solo guitar work in the same tuning as "Kashmir" and "White Summer". According to Crowe in a recent Prodigy article, this tune was incorporated into Page's live "White Summer"/"Black Mountain Side"/"Kashmir" medley (bits of it can be heard as early as 1970) and eventually resurfaced as part of a "work-in-progress" with Paul Rodgers on the American leg of the ARMS tour. Later, it was fleshed out to become the core of the song "Midnight Moonlight" on the Firm's first album. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 21 - How does the band feel about bootlegs? First of all, a few definitions--"bootlegs" are, in this case, defined as live concert recordings, studio outtakes, radio broadcasts, and similar material neither released nor sanctioned by the band or its management. They are not to be confused with counterfeit copies of legitimate releases, which are uniformly denounced and actively prosecuted by the law. In the past, Peter Grant used to make surprise stops in record stores to destroy any Zeppelin bootlegs he found. He also confiscated or destroyed any microphones and recording equipment he found at concerts. Since then, however, the band has mellowed considerably on the subject. Jimmy Page: "_Coda_ was released, basically, because there was so much bootleg stuff out. We thought, 'Well, if there's that much interest, then we may as well put the rest of our studio stuff out.'" Yet another reason the much-discussed chronological live album has not been released is, according to Page, because, "there are so many bootlegs around that people who are interested have probably made up their own compilation." He also has said, on the possibility of more studio outtakes being released: "Ah, no. There's some great live stuff. But there's also some great live bootlegs, ha ha. Thank God they're there and thanks to the people who send me these things. I listen to them and go, 'My God, that was good. I wish it had been recorded on the line.'" Robert Plant has often been known to autograph bootlegs, and all three members have from time to time requested copies of some of the better known productions. And a Page fan reports meeting Page and giving him a copy of a 10-album Zeppelin bootleg set. Page said, "Thanks," and continued walking on, as rock stars usually do when fans hand them something. But when he saw that the gift was a bootleg, Page stopped, went back to the fan, and said, "Thanks! This is great!" Page's opinion of boots has soured somewhat since the release of _Outrider_, however, as his house was broken into during the early recording stages. Among the items stolen were the demo tapes for what was to be a 2-album release (rather than the 1 that came out as _Outrider_), numerous studio outtakes and live soundboard recordings which have since flooded the market, and the pro-shot Knebworth video from 8-11-79. Page also confiscated an armful of bootlegs in a Japanese store while on tour with Coverdale/Page, so what his current feelings are unknown. Plant's opinion of live material in general seems to have soured a bit as well, though whether or not he makes a distinction in the case of bootlegs is not known. Interestingly, he was recently spotted in a bootleg store in New York, searching for a copy of the Page/Plant/Bombay Symphony recordings. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 22 - Where do I get bootlegs? This is a touchy subject, as the sale, distribution, and receipt of bootlegs is illegal. To protect the list from the (extremely unlikely) possiblility of litigation, care must be taken to seperate the illegal aspects of bootlegging from the (perfectly legal) academic discussion of them. Lists of traders will not appear in this FAQL, nor should the specifics of trading appear in the list. Bootleg lists, actual trades, bids, and the like should _not_ be posted. Caution should be exercised for the protection of both the list and the traders themselves. Having supplied the necessary disclaimers: Small (non-chain) record stores that advertise "New-Old-Used" records almost always carry bootleg albums and CDs, as well as some out-of-print stuff. _Goldmine_ and _Record Collector_ magazine can be scanned for sources, though _Goldmine_ no longer allows small collectors to specifically advertise bootlegs. Tape trading, the most popular form of collecting, is usually restricted to individuals rather than organizations or companies. Though beginning collectors often have no choice, many tape traders frown upon the "sale" of bootlegs--preferring "even" trades (sometimes with postage compensation) to buying and selling. Most often, simply posting to the list and stating your desire to find unreleased Zeppelin material will start the ball rolling. If you have bootlegs that you want to trade, then a post to that effect is acceptable (while a detailed list may not be). Note that the discussion of bootlegs is in no way illegal, and is an important facet of the list's discussions. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 23 - Which bootlegs should I start with? This is a very short list of the most popular collections/shows culled from _A Celebration_ and ZOSO Magazine. A more up-to-date version is in preparation. Apologies if your favorites were left out: The ZOSO Top Ten CDs: Tour Over Europe '80 (Zurich), Moonlight/Dinosaur, Dallas '75, Classics Off The Air I, II, & III, Blueberry Hill, Live In San Francisco, Destroyer (Archive version), Stokes '73, Rotterdam '80, Silver Coated Rails/Rock & Roll Recommendations culled from a special ZOSO feature and _A Celebration_: LP's -- Bonzo's Birthday Party, Cologne 1980, Copenhagen Warm-Ups--The 2nd Night, Feel All Right, Fillmore West 1969, V 1/2 (Highway or TMQ), For Badgeholders Only, Going To California, How Many More Times, Knebworth (Stork), Live At The Budokan, Pb (a/k/a Mudslide), No Quarter, Tangible Vandalism, Three Days After, 214, 207.19, LA Forum--A Night At The Heartbreak Hotel, Persistence, Live at the Chicago Stadium, Bonzo's Last Ever Gig In Berlin, The Can, In The Light '69-'85, Something Else, Hiawatha Express, The Making Of Friends, Studio Rehearsals May 1970, Inedits, Out Through The Back Door, The Last Rehearsal, Listen To This Eddie, Strange Tales From The road, Alpha Omega, White Summer, Live at the London Lyceum, Bath Festival 1970, My Brain Hurts, Quantient, Bonzo's Birthday Party CDs -- (in addition to above list)--Something Else, Studio Daze, Last Stand/ Final Touch, Jennings Farm Blues Tapes--2-1-69 Fillmore East, 4-7-70 Raleigh NC, 9-29-71 Festival Hall Osaka, 6-9-71 Charlotte NC, 6-19-72 Seattle, 6-25-72 The Forum LA, 10-4 & 10-9-72 Osaka, 5-5-73 Tampa, 5-13-73 Mobile AL, 5-14-73 New Orleans, 5-19-73 Fort Worth, 7-6-73 Chicago, 7-21-73 Providence, 7-26-73 Buffalo, 2-12-75 MSG NY, 2-28-75 Louisiana State University Baton Rouge, 3-5-75 Dallas, 3-10-75 San Diego, 3-24 & 3-25 & 3-27-75 LA Forum, 5-(17,18,23,24,25)-75 Earls Court, 6-7-77 MSG NY, 6-19-77 San Diego, 6-(21,25,27)-77 LA Forum, 7-23-77 Oakland, 8-11-79 Knebworth, 7-2 & 7-3-80 Mannheim Videos -- Danish TV 1969, 1-9-70 Royal Albert Hall, 1-21-75 Chicago, 2-8-75 Philadelphia, 3-75 Seattle, 3-24-75 LA Forum, 5-18-77 Birmingham, 7-23-77 Oakland, 7-11-79 Knebworth, 7-5-80 Munich Note that there's duplication and overlap in the above lists. A few notes about formats--the quality of CD releases is only occasionally better than other formats, but the permanence and playback advantages of CDs have convinced many collectors to concentrate on them. The CDs are not always tracked well, though-- track markers are often misplaced or missing altogether. LPs suffer from quality problems with repeated playback and scratching, but have the advantage of better packaging. Tapes are the cheapest option, and suffer the most from each playback/ copy--thus low generation tapes are prized by tape traders. However, tapes have two significant advantages over other formats: many shows have never appeared on CD or LP, and complete concerts are much easier to obtain on this format (CDs and LPs exhibit the so-called "slice and dice" mentality of bootleggers trying to deal with maximum time strictures and still make money). ----------------------------------------------------------------- 24 - Are there any books on Led Zeppelin? Many. Few good ones, though. The key resources are: _Led Zeppelin_ -- Howard Mylett _Led Zeppelin In The Light_ -- Howard Mylett and Richard Bunton _Led Zeppelin From The Archives_ -- Howard Mylett Photos, 56 pages. Contact Howard Mylett, 151 Thornhill Rise, Mile Oak, Portslade, Sussex, BN41 2YJ, England. 10 pounds sterling. _Led Zeppelin: The Definitive Biography_ -- Richie Yorke _Led Zeppelin In Their Own Words_ -- Paul Kendall _Led Zeppelin: A Visual Documentary_ -- Paul Kendall _Led Zeppelin Portraits_ -- Neal Preston -- This book is a must-have, as Preston was an "official" photographer and knew better than anyone how to capture Zeppelin's mystique. _Led Zeppelin: The Final Acclaim_ -- Dave Lewis _Led Zeppelin: The Book_ -- Chris Welch _Stairway To Heaven_ -- Richard Cole -- Basically a rewrite of _Hammer Of The Gods_, with a few more personal stories and photos thrown in. Less ridiculous speculation than Davis' book, though. Page: "There's a book written by our former road manager, Richard Cole that has made me completely ill. I'm so mad about it that I can't even bring myself to read the whole thing. The two bits that I have read are so ridiculously false, that I'm sure if I read the rest I'd be able to sue Cole and the publishers. But it would be so painful to read that it wouldn't be worth it. _The Illustrated Collectors Guide To Led Zeppelin, 3rd edition -- Robert Godwin -- Another must-have, covers the legal and bootleg discographies on vinyl and CD, though the pace of new CD releases makes the latter section obsolete. According to Hugh Jones of Proximity, however, Godwin is working on a 4th edition that will cover all new CD releases (up to the printing date, that is), color photos, and the most comprehensive tour date listing yet. _Led Zeppelin Live (An Illustrated Exploration Of Underground Tapes) (2nd edition)_ -- Luis Rey -- Features concert reviews, photos, and bootleg descriptions, along with the matching of concerts to specific bootlegs. Susan Pickel-Hedrick and Base Hedrick (editors of the Page fanzine _Oh Jimmy_) also edited this book. It is available from Hot Wacks Press, P.O. Box 544, Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada, N4K 5R1, for $21.00 (US) postage paid. _The Led Zeppelin Worldwide Collector's Guide Of Singles And Extended Plays_ -- Samuel Ketenjian -- picture sleeves, pictures of described memorabilia, singles, EPs, and complete country- by-country listings. $5 per book (or $10 for a limited edition signed and numbered copy) + $3.50 postage ($5.00 overseas) to Samuel Ketenjian, 16335 Calahan St., North Hills, CA 91343. (818) 893-2079, fax (818) 893-1547. _Led Zeppelin A Celebration_ -- Dave Lewis -- The principal resource for this FAQL. Incredible. _Led Zeppelin Heaven And Hell_ -- Charles Cross and Erik Flannigan, with Neal Preston -- another key resource for this FAQL. _Jimmy Page: Tangents Within A Framework_ -- Howard Mylett _Live Dreams_ -- Laurance Ratner -- Possibly the best-produced Led Zeppelin work yet, a 200+ page coffee-table book with only 4000 copies printed. Wonderful color photos (some of the best out there), a specially-commissioned artwork on the cover, superior materials used for the paper and binding, and a forward by Dave Lewis. Expensive, but worth it for the serious collector. Larry is online, so you can contact him if you have questions. Contact: LRC Limited P.O. Box 10648 Chicago, IL 60610-6048 (USA) firstname.lastname@example.org _The Complete Guide To The Music Of Led Zeppelin_ -- Dave Lewis Simply an excerpting of the song analysis in _A Celebration_, with some info on new songs, pictures, and downsized to fit in a standard CD rack. ..and, of course: _Hammer Of The Gods_ -- Stephen Davis -- The band denounces it. It's mostly the whisperings of tour manager/perpetual addict Richard Cole, whose own book is much more valuable for this type of insight. Readers should know that Stephen Davis once claimed (quite seriously), in an interview for a Zeppelin fanzine, that Jimmy Page had put some sort of curse on him. Read at your own risk. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 25 - Are there any music books featuring Led Zeppelin? There are _many_ third-party collection (mostly simplified tab collections) of material from the first five albums, and for the most part these are not listed here. "Stairway To Heaven" -- Warner Brothers (piano, notation + tab, tab, easy piano) This exists in all 4 formats--the notation + tab format is licensed by Warner Brothers to _Guitar For The Practicing Musician_, and the easy piano edition exists as a Warner Brothers production (though we've seen Dan Coates' version in the past). _Led Zeppelin Complete_ -- Superhype/Warner Brothers (piano or piano + tab) Music from the first 5 albums. This also exists in an Intermediate Guitar format. _Led Zeppelin Complete Vol. 2_ -- Superhype/Flames Of Albion/ Warner Brothers (piano or piano + tab) Music from the last 4 studio albums. This is not yet widely available, it seems. _Led Zeppelin Guitar Superstar Series_ -- Warner Brothers (tab) Intermediate guitar transcriptions, from the first six albums. _Led Zeppelin_ -- Warner Brothers (notation + tab) A 2-book companion to the 4CD set, features notation and tablature for all instruments used on the boxed set tracks. The transcription is excellent, though the lyrical interpretations leave something to be desired. Whether or not this process will be repeated for _Boxed Set 2_ is unknown. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 26 - Are there any magazines/fanzines about Led Zeppelin? Note: this section is provided for information only. No endorsement or guarantee of the services provided is intended. Proximity -- The Led Zeppelin Collector's Journal P.O. Box 45541 Seattle, WA 98145-0541 Published quarterly. Subscription info: Standard--$12 per year (4 issues) Premium (mailed in a protective envelope)--$16 per year Overseas--$24 per year (all US funds) Single issue or back issue (US)--$4 Checks or money orders payable to Hugh Jones. Hugh Jones is online, so he is available for questions/comment, at HugLesley@aol.com. Wearing And Tearing Mark Archer Flat 3, 13 Lynton Rd Heaton Moor, Stockport, SK4 4RQ England The Only One 86 Main St. Suite 503 Dundas, Ontario L9H, 2R1 CANADA Published bimonthly starting 1 April 1994. Rates: One year--$24 (6 issues) Four issues--$18 Sample issue--$5 The first 250 subscribers will receive numbered issues as collectors' items. The Ocean 46 Briarwood Drive Westwood, MA 02090 (USA) Oh Jimmy Susan Hedrick P.O. Box 6307 Bellevue, WA 98008 (USA) Oh Jimmy - The Jimmy Page Fanzine Tim Tirelli Via Pedretti 12 41015 Nonantola (MO) Italy Single issues of _Oh Jimmy_--$4 US, $5 Canada The Lemon Tree (Plant fanzine) Liz Hames 20 Ludford Crescent Gainsborough, Lincs. DN2I IXB, ENGLAND Published quarterly. Rates: 4 issues -- 8 pounds (UK) 10 pounds (Europe) 14 pounds (rest of the world) Single issues - 1.5 pounds per copy Tight But Loose 14 Totnes Close Bedford, MK40 3AX England Four issues of the Tight But Loose magazine (twice annually) PLUS four additional information service newsletters:- UK------------- 16 all prices inclusive of Europe--------- 21 all postage costs USA/Canada----- 28 Australia/Japan 31 all prices in pounds Payment: by cheque/postal order/eurocheque/international money order in UK sterling only. Payable to D. Lewis. The magazine is also available individually to non-subscribers at the following rates: UK 3.50 Europe 4.50 again, prices in pounds USA/Canada 6.00 Japan/Australia 6.50 Founded by Dave Lewis, this was the premiere fanzine during Led Zeppelin's active years. This publication has resurfaced, including: Still available - Tight But Loose 7 - The Celebration Update Special issue sequel to the Dave Lewis book Led Zeppelin _A Celebration_. 40,000 word chapter by chapter update. UK 4.00 Europe 5.00 USA/Canada 6.5 Japan/Australia 7.00 prices in pounds. Also, a word about _ZOSO_ -- due to financial difficulties,the production of _ZOSO_ has apparently ceased--permanently. The status of merchandising, etc. is unknown. _Electric Magic_ has also, sadly, gone by the wayside. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 27 - Are there any Led Zeppelin fan clubs? Not that Digital Graffiti is aware of. Sadly, _Nirvana_ has come to an abrupt end in both its fanzine and fan club formats. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 28 - Where do I get Led Zeppelin collectibles (other than bootlegs)? Super-collector Rick Barrett can be contacted at: Rick Barrett PO Box 66262 Houston, TX 77266-6262 fax 713-680-0325 And, of course, almost any music magazine has advertisements for Zeppelin shirts, posters, keychains, etc. _Goldmine_ magazine is a source for hard-to-find collectibles. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 29 - Where can I get online lyrics, tabulature, GIFs, etc.? ***(Note: Info is not guaranteed, and sources remain incomplete and unverified)*** Bootlegs -- Members of Digital Graffiti are working on a comprehensive bootleg/tour list. Stay tuned. Contact Risto Pohjonen at email@example.com if you want to help. Tour dates -- Contact Risto Pohjonen at firstname.lastname@example.org for the online list of (past) tour dates. Trivia -- Steven Wheeler (email@example.com) is working on a list of "obscure Zeppelin trivia." Contact him with submissions/suggestions. Lyrics -- all "official" lyrical publications range from bad to awful. This includes the boxed set folio, which has incorrect and/or missing lyrics throughout. The _best_ source of lyrics thus far is Digital Graffiti, which has thrashed out "best-guess" versions over the past year or so. These are available by anonymous FTP at the music archive (cs.uwp.edu or ftp.uwp.edu) in the led.zeppelin/lyrics directory. ***NOTE: due to inconsistent maintenance, there are _two_ versions of "Hey Hey What Can I Do" on the archive--the "correct" version is hey.hey.what.can.I.do, _not_ the one with underscores. Tabs -- the boxed set folio has excellent tablature (and standard notation) for vocals, all guitars, bass, drums and percussion, keyboards, and all other instruments. There are also online sources (see below). Also see the above section on music books. GIFs -- See addresses below. There is a nice gif of the four symbols at cs.uwp.edu (3444 bytes), courtesy of Steve Rospo. They should be in /pub/music/pictures/l/led.zeppelin, but for now look in /pub/incoming/pictures/led.zeppelin. A jpeg of these symbols is also available at the same site. Fonts -- The _HOTH_ font, with the "four symbols," is available as a TrueType Font for Win 3.1 at: nic.switch.ch in software/msdos/win3/fonts/truetype/kashmir.zip nic.funet.fi in pub/msdos/windows/tt-fonts/kashmir.zip ..and for the Macintosh at: sumex-aim.stanford.edu in info-mac/font/tt/led-zeppelin-12.hqx nic.funet.fi in pub/mac/info-mac/font/tt/led-zeppelin-12.hqx Another _great_ source of info is the Hypercard stack put together by our own Brian Davies: ***************************************************************** "The Led Zeppelin Stack (v1.2) is an interactive database of lyrics, artwork, set lists, sound samples, trivia and reviews. The stack will run on any Mac with System 6.0 or greater and HyperCard 2.0 or greater. It is constantly expanding, and as of this writing it contains the most complete collection of lyrics available on the net, about 400K of sounds and art from all the albums and then some. Songs, albums and concerts are cross-referenced for easy traversal of the stack. To subscribe to the stack, mail $10 and either an e-mail address or a formatted disk & SASE to Brian Davies, 1310 Chicago Ave., Apt. 2A, Evanston, IL 60201. Questions or comments are welcome; I can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org. ***************************************************************** Due to a general lack of interest, however, Brian may or may not continue to update this. Contact him for more info. FTP sites with Zeppelin info include: ftp.nevada.edu pub/guitar (tabs) sumex-aim.stanford.edu info-mac fonts (_HOTH_ font) card (Hypercard stack of Zeppelin info) sound (Zeppelin samples) Host cs.uwp.edu (or ftp.uwp.edu) Location: /pub/music/discog FILE -rw-r--r-- 3319 Dec 20 1990 zeppelin Location: /pub/music/lyrics/files DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Nov 21 1991 led.zeppelin Archie -- Anyone who can do an Archie search can find many more sources for info, GIFs, etc. Ask the list for help if you need to. Gopher -- The music archive at cs.uwp.edu is accessible through Gopher, as are many other archive sites. WWW -- World Wide Web home pages with Zeppelin info include: http://fjord.res.cmu.edu/zeppelin http://uvacs.cs.virginia.edu/~jsw2y/zeppelin/zeppelin.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- 30 - What did the members of Led Zeppelin do after the band broke up? (For more complete information, consult the discography sections.) Jones recorded the soundtrack for _Scream For Help_, with the assistance of Page and Yes' Jon Anderson. He produced albums by Mission UK, John Renbourn, Stefan Grossman, and his daughter (Jacinda Jones), as well as a group he referred to as "industrial flamenco": La Sura Dels Baus. He did string arrangements for Cinderella's _Heartbreak Station_, Raging Slab's _Dynamite Monster Boogie Concert_, and REM's _Automatic For The People_, guested on a Brian Eno album, and appeared on Peter Gabriel's _Us_ playing surdu, bass, and keyboards. He appeared in Paul McCartney's movie and soundtrack for _Give My Regards To Broadstreet_. He appeared on stage with Plant once (in December 1983), during the _Principle Of Moments_ tour. He composed for and performed with the early music ensemble Red Byrd. He appeared on and assisted with Ben E. King's reunion tour and album. He professes his interests to be in keyboards and dance music, rather than rock. Most recently, he produced and played some bass on the newest Butthole Surfers album, _Independent Worm Saloon_. He reported that he was working on both a solo album (on which guitarist Paul Leary of the Surfers would probably appear) and a symphonic album. He also made a surprise appearance as Lenny Kravitz's bassist at the 1993 MTV Video Music Awards. Current projects include production and performance for a live Heart album, production for a new Michael Penn album, and performance and production for his album with Diamanda Galas entitled _The Sporting Life_, for which is currently touring the US. He is married and has three children. Plant released 6 solo albums -- _Pictures At Eleven_, _The Principle Of Moments_, _Shaken 'N' Stirred_, _Now & Zen_, _Manic Nirvana_, and _Fate of Nations_. He was the vocalist for the Honeydrippers' only album, which also featured Jimmy Page on "Sea Of Love" and "I Get A Thrill." He appeared on the _Porky's_, _White Nights_, and _Wayne's World II_ soundtracks, and also on an album of Elvis covers. He contributed vocals for the song "The Only One" on Page's _Outrider_. He did a Coke commercial structured around the song "Tall Cool One." He had a relationship with Canadian singer Alannah Myles. He appeared on _Adios Amigo_, a tribute album for R&B songwriter Arthur Alexander. At the moment, he is working with Jimmy Page on a host of projects. He is currently divorced, and has 2 children (Carmen and Logan) from a previous marriage, as well as (according to VOX magazine) a child from another relationship. His first son, Karac, is deceased, and his daughter Carmen is married to his current bassist, Charlie Jones. Page composed and recorded the soundtrack to the film _Death Wish 2_. He jammed extensively, with (among others) Jeff Beck, Yes, Foreigner, Bon Jovi, Aerosmith, Poison, Eric Clapton, Ian Stewart, Roy Harper, Alexis Korner, Robert Plant, The Beach Boys, Jaco Pastorius, Solid Ground, Mason Ruffner, and even Harry Connick, Jr. He appeared on albums by Willie and The Poor Boys, Stephen Stills, and Box Of Frogs (an ex-Yardbirds reunion). He teamed up with Paul Rodgers of Bad Company, Tony Franklin from Roy Harper's band (last seen with Blue Murder) and Chris Slade of Manfred Mann (now with AC/DC) to create The Firm, which released 2 albums--_The Firm_ and _Mean Business_. He participated in the British and American versions of the ARMS tour (to benefit MS) with Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Steve Winwood, Bill Wyman, Charlie Watts, Kenny Jones, Simon Phillips, and other British rock stars. He guested on two tracks from Plant's _Now & Zen_ album, "Heaven Knows" and "Tall Cool One." He released a solo album entitled _Outrider_ with Jason Bonham on drums and featuring Plant's vocals on one track--"The Only One." He released an album with David Coverdale (of Deep Purple and Whitesnake) entitled _Coverdale/Page_. He is currently working with Robert Plant on a number of projects. He is married to a woman named Patricia and has two children--James (with his current wife) and Scarlet (with a previous girlfriend). Bonham, surprisingly enough, made it past the grave as the sampling source for the drum track of Frankie Goes To Hollywood's hit "Relax," and has been extensively sampled for rap beat compilations. He can be heard (in sampled form) on Power Station and early Beastie Boys albums, among others. Peter Grant was last reported to be working on the much-lamented Malcom McLaren biopic about Robert Plant (starring Jason Donovan), and also working on a film about his own life (according to an interview reprinted in _ZOSO_ magazine). The two projects may be related, and they may also be on indefinite hold. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 31 - Is Led Zeppelin getting back together? No. But Jimmy Page and Robert Plant _are_ working together. See part three of the FAQL for more information--this section will merely provide a history of the event. The current furor started with a report in the Boston _Globe_ (echoed in other markets) that Page and Plant were doing an episode of MTV's _Unplugged_. These rumors were supported when Page and Plant were sighted together in Boston, and again in New York, in late November (before Page left for Japan to fulfill his Coverdale/Page touring obligations). The next wave of reports was initiated when Page and Plant held rehearsals and writing sessions in a studio at King's Crossing, and again in Morocco. Some of this material has already been recorded, and some will appear in slightly different form in the MTV _Unledded_ special and on the companion album and video releases. The first tangible evidence appeared when Page, Plant, Charlie Jones, and Michael Lee performed 17 April 1994 at the Alexis Korner Blues Show in Buxton, England. The set list: Baby Please Don't Go, I Can't Quit You Baby, I've Been Down So Long, That's Why I Love You, Train Kept A Rollin' All were in fine form, and CD bootlegs of the show already exist. The pair have since popped in to a few clubs for spontaneous jams, and have a press conference planned for October 11th in New York City. This is, of course, not the first "reunion." A brief history: XYZ -- a project combining elements of Yes and Zeppelin. Chris Squire reports that he has tapes of songs that he, Alan White, Page, and possibly Jones (though no one has mentioned him) were involved in. The project crashed for lack of a vocalist -- namely, Plant -- and because of thinly veiled threats from various management interests. The name, in case someone hasn't figured it out, stands for "eX-Yes-and-Zeppelin". Live Aid -- On 13 July 1985, the 3 living members of Zeppelin, along with Paul Martinez (from Plant's band) on bass, Tony Thompson (of Chic) on drums, and Phil Collins (who had to fly over after his performance at Wembley) on drums, appeared at the Live Aid festival at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia. They performed "Rock And Roll," "Whole Lotta Love," and "Stairway To Heaven." Plant was hoarse from 4 consecutive nights of singing and a morning rehearsal, Page's guitar was out of tune, Collins and Thompson were lost much of the time, and Bill Graham, who was promoting, was pointing at his watch all through "STH" because Zeppelin was taking more than their allotted time. Ten days later, Page joined Plant on his solo tour for a few encores. Reunion #1 -- In January of 1986, Zeppelin and Tony Thompson met in secret in a village hall near Peter Gabriel's Bath studios. Plant handled bass chores while Jones played keyboards. They worked through "..two or three things that were quite promising, a sort of cross between David Byrne and Husker Du." (Plant) But it was not to be--Plant was not used to having to deal with Page's eccentricities (Page reportedly changed the batteries in his wah-wah pedal after every other song), and Tony Thompson was injured in a car accident. Plant walked out and the reunion crashed. Hammersmith Odeon -- 17 April 1988, Page joins Plant's tour for a blistering encore featuring "Trampled Underfoot," "Gambler's Blues/I Can't Quit You Baby/Since I've Been Loving You," "Misty Mountain Hop," and "Rock And Roll." Atlantic 40th -- 14 May 1988 -- A 12-hour tribute concert for Atlantic Records, which came to a climax with Zeppelin's performance (Jason Bonham on drums). Jason played well, but the night is generally considered a disaster. The rehearsal was (reportedly) brilliant. The evening arrived with the band better- rehearsed than they had been at Live Aid; but the concert ran late, upsetting Page's always fragile nerves--which caused him to drink a bit more than he should have. Not to be outdone, Plant had suddenly decided that he didn't want to sing "Stairway." He refused to change his mind until the band was literally standing onstage. The sound feed for the TV broadcast completely lost the keyboards, which made "Kashmir" sound rather thin. Plant was bumped by a fan during the same song, forgot the lyrics to one verse and later on forgot the words to "Stairway." Page's solos were somewhat of a disaster, though he did redeem himself a bit at the end of his "Stairway" solo. The set list was: "Kashmir," "Heartbreaker/Whole Lotta Love" (the Knebworth '79 arrangement), "Misty Mountain Hop," and "Stairway To Heaven." Carmen Plant's Birthday -- The band played at Carmen Plant's 21st birthday Party, once again with Jason on drums. Set list was "Trampled Underfoot," "Misty Mountain Hop," and "Rock And Roll." November 1989. Jason's Wedding -- The band also reformed for Jason Bonham's wedding, playing "Bring It On Home, "Rock And Roll," "Sick Again," "Custard Pie," and Jerry Lee Lewis' "It'll Be Me." Both this and the previous performance were said to be outstanding. 28 April 1990. Knebworth '90 -- Page joined Plant's band (despite rumours and even the official promotion announcing Led Zeppelin's presence, Jones was nowhere to be found) for "Misty Mountain Hop," the first-ever Page-led performance of "Wearing And Tearing," and "Rock And Roll." Page had stood on the sidelines earlier as Plant's band covered "Immigrant Song" and "Going To California." Reunion #2 -- The following January, the members of Zeppelin met with Peter Grant to discuss a reunion tour. Lighting and sound companies were contacted, and stadiums were quietly reserved. After badgering Plant in public and private about the reunion, Page thought he had finally convinced him to go along with it. Both Page and Jones had expressed varying degrees of enthusiasm for the idea. But Plant, after agreeing to the tour and breaking for lunch, came back one hour later and said no. This angered Page immensely, and given Plant's rather critical attitude towards Zeppelin in the press, he allowed his displeasure to be known: "...Robert certainly wasn't doing anything...and there was a great feeling in the camp that we would probably be getting back together again in some shape or form -- some capacity -- whether it be a tour or what. But, I mean, as you can tell at this point it just didn't happen...[softly] it just didn't happen, so.... I think it's pretty safe to assume that if it didn't happen then... then...you know, it's...well, it's pretty dim any...any chance of it happening in the future. Everyone...I mean, as far as Jonesy and I were concerned, we were really keen to see it begin...get something going. But, you know, Robert just wasn't...[softly] wasn't interested. Well, at the time...I mean, I'll leave this for everybody's speculation: that he thought it would harm his solo career. That's...that's what he said, which is rather peculiar, but...but that's his reason." Relations between the two were sometimes amicable, sometimes dicey: Plant: "...I do find Jimmy's constant sort of complaining about the lack of Led Zeppelin in the major sort of festival auditoriums in the country a bit boring." Page: "Someone should just tell Robert to keep his mouth shut." ..but with recent developments, it appears that this unpleasantness is behind them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 32 - Upcoming releases from the members of Led Zeppelin. Led Zeppelin ------------ All the original Led Zeppelin albums, with the exception of _The Song Remains The Same_, have been re-released with remastered audio and restored "original artwork." _A Tribute To Led Zeppelin_ (January 1995) Atlantic (various artists) Down By The Seaside, Misty Mountain Hop, Custard Pie, Four Sticks, other tracks unknown Artists participating include Tori Amos and Robert Plant (Down By The Seaside), 4 Non Blondes (Misty Mountain Hop), Helmet (Custard Pie), and Rollins Band (Four Sticks). Possible participants include Cracker, Tesla, Duran Duran, Stone Temple Pilots, Sting, Lenny Kravitz, and Aerosmith. Jimmy Page & Robert Plant ------------------------- _Unledded_ (8 November 1994) Atlantic Track listing unknown. (Jimmy Page--guitars, Robert Plant--vocals, Charlie Jones--bass, Michael Lee--drums, Porl Thompson--banjo and rhythm guitar, Jim Sutherland--mandolin, Nigel Eaton--hurdy-gurdy) This will be the recording of the MTV special, not the album of new studio material. A laserdisc of the special is due to be released the same day, while a videocassette is scheduled for an 11 November release. _(title unknown)_ (date unknown) Atlantic Wonderful One, City Don't Cry, "Wah-Wah Song," other tracks unknown The album of new compositions from Jimmy Page and Robert Plant, recorded in London and Morocco this summer and fall, and due at some point this winter. The track listing is incomplete. The band will include Charlie Jones (bass) and Michael Lee (drums). Robert Plant ------------ _Adios Amigo_ (September 1994) Razor & Tie (various artists) If It's Really Got To Be This Way A tribute to the R&B songwriter Arthur Alexander, this features Plant on the listed track. Jimmy Page ---------- Nothing is planned. John Paul Jones --------------- _The Sporting Life (6 September 1994) Mute (John Paul Jones & Diamanda Galas) Skotoseme, Do You Take This Man?, Dark End Of The Street, You're Mine, Tony, Devil's Rodeo, The Sporting Life, Baby's Insane, Last Man Down, Hex (Diamanda Galas--vocals, organ, and piano, John Paul Jones--basses and steel guitar, Pete Thomas--drums) A video for "Do You Take This Man?" has been aired. "Do You Take This Man?" CD single (September 1994) Mute (John Paul Jones & Diamanda Galas) Do You Take This Man?, (other tracks unavailable) Jones will appear, in both playing and production roles, on the upcoming live Heart album (date unknown). He has also produced the upcoming Michael Penn album (date unknown). ----------------------------------------------------------------- 33 - Upcoming tour dates and appearances. Jimmy Page and Robert Plant are hosting a press conference in New York City 11 November 1994. _Unledded_ (a 90-minute MTV special featuring Jimmy Page & Robert Plant) will air in the US on MTV 12 October at 10pm; MTV Europe 17 October at 21:00; other MTV affiliates (like MTV Asia) unknown; VH-1 5 November & 6 November; MuchMusic (Canada) is in the process of securing the broadcast rights but has announced no airdate. This special will feature tracks recorded in three different locations: Morocco, London, and Wales. The personnel differs depending on the venue: Marrakesh, Morocco (8 August 1994) Two new songs recorded, one entitled "City Don't Cry," with four Gnaoui musicians playing such traditional instruments as metal drums, iron castanets, and a gibrel (three-string bass). Along with Page on acoustic guitar, the songs were performed in an ancient courtyard in the center of the city. Morocco (9 August 1994) Unknown tracks recorded with female Berber singers, in an as- yet-unidentified 11th century village. Corris Slate Quarries (near Bron-Yr-Aur), Wales (15 August 1994) Three songs performed by Page, Plant, Charlie Jones, and Michael Lee, with an audience of two people and a few sheep: Gallows Pole, When The Levee Breaks, Nobody's Fault But Mine London Television Center, London, England (August 1994) Two nights of recording (each around 90 minutes) at this semi- secret location, in front of an invitation-only audience of 250. The first night was billed as Plant/Page, the second as Page/Plant. Thank You, What Is And What Should Never Be, Battle Of Evermore (with an unknown Indian woman singing the second vocal), Gallows Pole (with hurdy-gurdy, banjo, and mandolin) (Jimmy Page--guitars, Robert Plant--vocals, Charlie Jones-- bass and backing vocals, Michael Lee--percussion, Porl Thompson--banjo and rhythm guitar, Jim Sutherland--mandolin, Nigel Eaton--hurdy-gurdy) The following numbers were performed by the same personnel, and also included Egyptian and traditional orchestras (see notations): The Rain Song (traditional, with acoustic guitar), Since I've Been Loving You (traditional, similar to the 1971 arrangement), Four Sticks (Egyptian, similar to Bombay version), Friends (Egyptian, similar to Bombay version), Kashmir (both orchestras, a new arrangement), The following numbers were performed, but it is not known if the orchestra(s) were included: That's The Way (with drums), Nobody's Fault But Mine (a new arrangement, combined with one of the new songs), Wonderful One (described as a "romantic duet,") City Don't Cry Information on the Unledded special will air on MTV news the weekend of 1 October 1994. MTV Europe has scheduled a "Weekend With Led" for 24-25 October 1994. JOHN PAUL JONES -DIAMANDA GALAS Fall 1994 Tour dates Nov. 10 New York City Irving Plaza Nov. 13 Philadelphia Irvine Auditorium Nov. 15 Ann Arbor, Mi The Michigan Theatre Nov. 17 Chicago The Vic Nov. 18 Madison, WI The Barrymore Theatre Nov. 20 Lincoln, NE The Lied Center Nov. 22 Columbus, OH Mershon Auditorium Nov. 24 Toronto, Ont, CAN The Phoenix Nov. 26 Washington, DC The Lincoln Theatre Nov. 30 Austin, TX The Paramount Dec. 2 Tempe, AZ Gammage Auditorium Dec. 4 Los Angeles Wadsworth Theatre Dec. 7 San Francisco Fillmore Theatre Dec. 8 Portland, OR The Portland Art Museum Dec. 10 Seattle, WA The Moore Jimmy Page & Robert Plant are rumored to be planning a spring/ summer tour, but nothing has been officially announced as of yet. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 34 - What albums has Jimmy Page released? This discography follows the format: _Title_ (release date) Label (artist, if not the subject of the discography) Song Title One, Song Title Two A list of videos. Any other relevant information. This discography will cover major releases only--most guest appearances will _not_ be included. Also, only new singles and older singles of particular interest will be listed. For a more complete discography, consult _A Celebration_ by Dave Lewis. Pre-Zeppelin: ------------- (Note: a sessionography for Page would be an enormous undertaking, thus it is not attempted here. However, there are a few sessions worth mentioning, as they sometimes come up in discussions: "Can't Explain"--The Who--Page on rhythm guitar. "You Really Got Me" & "All Day & All Of The Night"--The Kinks-- Page on rhythm and possibly lead, though Dave Davies disputes this. Other sessions are listed in the regular discography.) _Jimmy Page And Sonny Boy Williamson_ (1964) BYG Jam session also available as _Jimmy Page Special Early Works_ on Springboard. _Anthology Of British Blues Vol. 1 & 2_ (?) Immediate (various) Choker, Snake Drive, West Coast Idea, Tribute To Elmore, Freight Loader, Draggin' My Tail, etc. This collection also appears as _Best Of British Blues_, _Guitar Boogie_, _White Boy Blues_, and under of number of other titles. Basically, these are "basement" tapes recorded at Immediate and in Page's home studio, featuring Page, Eric Clapton, Mick Jagger, Ian Stewart, some of the Yardbirds, and other British rock luminaries. The exact personnel list for each track is unknown, however, as is exactly which tracks are actually _from_ these sessions. "She Just Satisfies" b/w "Keep Moving" (February 1965) Fontana Page plays all instruments but drums, and sings on the first track. _James Patrick Page--Session Man Vol. 1 & 2_ (?) Archive Productions International This two-volume LP and CD set features pre-Zeppelin studio work. "Hi Ho Silver Lining" b/w "Beck's Bolero" (1966) Columbia (Jeff Beck) The b-side is a Page composition featuring Beck, Page, Keith Moon, John Paul Jones, and Nicky Hopkins. It appears on Beck's album _Truth_ as well. _Little Games_ (1967) Epic, re-released on EMI (The Yardbirds) Little Games, Smile On Me, White Summer, Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor, Glimpses, Drinking Muddy Water, No Excess Baggage, Stealing Stealing, Only The Black Rose, Little Soldier Boy, Ha Ha Said The Clown, Goodnight Sweet Josephine (On UK reissue only)--Think About It, Remember The Night (Jimmy Page--guitars, Keith Relf--vocals and harmonica, Chris Dreja-- bass and rhythm guitar, Jim McCarty--drums and percussion) _Blow Up_ (March 1967) MGM (soundtrack) Stroll On The Yardbirds imitating the Who (Page on bass, Beck on guitar). The song is "Train Kept A Rollin'," rewritten by the band to avoid copyright problems. _Live Yardbirds With Jimmy Page_ (1971) Epic, re-released on the Columbia Special Products label (the former features a yellow label, the latter a red label) (The Yardbirds) Train Kept A Rollin', You're A Better Man Than I, I'm Confused, My Baby, Over Under Sideways Down, Drinking Muddy Water, Shapes Of Things, White Summer, I'm A Man Page used legal pressure to remove this album from stores, though it appears in many semi-official and bootleg formats. _Little Games Sessions & More_ (1992) EMI (The Yardbirds) Little Games, Smile On Me, White Summer, Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor, Glimpses, Drinking Muddy Water, No Excess Baggage, Stealing Stealing, Only The Black Rose, Little Soldier Boy, Puzzles, I Remember The Night, Ha Ha Said The Clown, Ten Little Indians, Goodnight Sweet Josephine, Think About It, Little Games, You Stole My Love, White Summer, Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor, LSD, Drinking Muddy Water, De Lane Lea Lee, Glimpses, Never Mind, Ten Little Indians, Goodnight, Sweet Josephine, Henry's Coming Home, Love Mum And Dad, Together Now, Shining Where The Sun Has Been, "Great Shakes" commercial spot (Jimmy Page--guitars, Keith Relf--vocals and harmonica, Chris Dreja--bass and rhythm guitar, Jim McCarty--drums and percussion) This 2-CD set is the third in a series of Yardbirds collections that completely document the band's studio work, including unreleased and alternate takes. Some of the tracks have been remixed, in addition to being remastered. This is the complete Page-era Yardbirds collection, with the exception of "Stroll On" (from _Blow-Up_) and the possible exception of "Happening Ten Years Time Ago," which appears on the _Roger The Engineer_ CD. _Jimmy's Back Pages...The Early Years_ (1992) Sony Les Fleurs De Lys--Circles, So Come On, Moondreams; The Blue Rondos--Baby I Go For You, Little Baby; The First Gear-- Gotta Make Their Future Bright, The "In" Crowd, A Certain Girl, Leave My Kitten Alone; Gregory Phillips--Please Believe Me, Angie; The Primitives--How Do You Feel, You Said; The Lancastrians--She Was Tall, We'll Sing In The Sunshine; Wayne Gibson & The Dynamic Sounds--See You Later Alligator, Kelly; The Authentics--Without You, Climing Through; Nico-- I'm Not Sayin', The Last Mile; Donovan--Sunshine Superman Jimmy's early session work. _Metamorphosis_ (1975) Decca (The Rolling Stones) Pre-1975 outtakes with Page's "assistance" on unspecified tracks. Mid-Zeppelin: ------------- _With A Little Help From My Friends_ (1968) Regal Zonophone (Joe Cocker) With A Little Help From My Friends, Bye Bye Blackbird, Marjorine _No Introduction Necessary_ (1968) Spark/Thunderbolt (various) Unknown. _Love Chronicles_ (January 1969) CBS (Al Stewart) Unknown. _Lord Sutch And Heavy Friends_ (June 1970) Atlantic (Lord Sutch) Wailing Sounds, 'Cause I Love You, Flashing Lights, Thumping Beat, Union Jack Car, Baby Come Back Page, Bonham, Jeff Beck, Noel Redding, Nicky Hopkins, and others recorded "new" versions of rock standards, which Sutch added "new" lyrics to later. Also available as _Smoke & Fire_ on Thunderbolt. _Stormcock_ (June 1971) Harvest (Roy Harper) Same Old Rock Jimmy appears here under the pseudonym S. Flavius Mercurius. _Lifemask_ (February 1973) Harvest (Roy Harper) The Lord's Prayer, Bank Of The Dead _Flashes From The Archives Of Oblivion_ (November 1974) Harvest (Roy Harper) Page with Harper's band in a live show, Plant hosts but does not otherwise participate. Post-Zeppelin: -------------- _Death Wish 2_ (February 1982) Swan Song (soundtrack) Who's To Blame, The Chase, City Sirens, Jam Sandwich, Carole's Theme, The Release, Hotel Rats & Photostats, A Shadow In The City, Jill's Theme, Prelude, Big Band/Sax & Violence, Hypnotising Ways (Oh Mamma) (Jimmy Page--guitars and sythesizer guitars, Chris Farlowe--vocals, Gordon Edwards--piano and vocals, Dave Paton--bass, Dave Mattacks-- drums, Dave Lawson--arrangements) _Right By You_ (1984) Atlantic (Stephen Stills) 50/50, Right By You, Flaming Heart _The Honeydrippers, Vol. 1_ (November 1984) Atlantic (The Honeydrippers) Sea Of Love, I Get A Thrill _The Firm_ (February 1985) Atlantic (The Firm) Closer, Make Or Break, Someone To Love, Together, Radioactive, You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling, Money Can't Buy, Satisfaction Guaranteed, Midnight Moonlight (Jimmy Page--guitars, Paul Rodgers--guitar and vocals, Tony Franklin-- bass, Chris Slade--drums) There were videos released for "Radioactive" and "Satisfaction Guaranteed." _Whatever Happened To Jugula?_ (March 1985) Beggars Banquet (Roy Harper & Jimmy Page) Nineteen Forty-Eightish, Bad Speech, Hope, Hangman, Elizabeth, Frozen Moment, Twentieth Century Man, Advertisement (Another Intentional Irrelevant Suicide) (Roy Harper--guitars, vocals, percussion, Jimmy Page--guitars, Tony Franklin--bass, Nik Green--keyboards, Ronnie Brambles--drums, Steve Broughton--drums, Preston Heyman--drums, Nick Harper-- guitars) _Scream For Help_ (March 1985) Atlantic (soundtrack) Spaghetti Junction, Crackback Guitar on both tracks. _Willie And The Poorboys_ (1985) Decca (Willie And The Poorboys) These Arms Of Mine, Slippin' And Slidin' A video for "These Arms Of Mine" was released. _Mean Business_ (April 1986) Atlantic (The Firm) Fortune Hunter, Cadillac, All The King's Horses, Live In Peace, Tear Down The Walls, Dreaming, Free To Live, Spirit Of Love (Jimmy Page--guitars, Paul Rodgers--guitar and vocals, Tony Franklin--bass, Chris Slade--drums) There were videos released for "Tear Down The Walls," "All The King's Horses," and "Live In Peace." _Strange Land_ (1986) Epic (Box Of Frogs) Asylum This is the ex-Yardbirds' project. _Dirty Work_ (1986) Rolling Stones Records/CBS (The Rolling Stones) One Hit To The Body _In Between Every Line_ (1986) Harvest (Roy Harper) Short and Sweet, Referendum, Highway Blues, True Story, The Game, One Man Rock'n'Roll Band Live from 1984. _Lucifer Rising_ (1987) Boleskine House Records (soundtrack) This features 23 minutes of Page's headache-inducing "music" for the Kenneth Anger film of the same name. There are innumerable bootlegs of this. Note: the catalog number of the "original" is BHR 666. _Now and Zen_ (February 1988) Es Paranza (Robert Plant) Heaven Knows, Tall Cool One Guitar solos on both tracks. _Outrider_ (June 1988) Geffen Wasting My Time[%], Wanna Make Love, Writes Of Winter, The Only One[+@], Liquid Mercury[@$], Hummingbird[*], Emerald Eyes[@$], Prison Blues[*@], Blues Anthem[*@] (Jimmy Page--acoustic, electric, and synthesizer guitars, John Miles--vocals, [*]Chris Farlowe--vocals, [+]Robert Plant--vocals, Durban Laverde--bass, [@]Felix Krish--bass, [%]Tony Franklin-- bass, Jason Bonham--drums, [$]Barrymore Barlow--drums) There was a video released for "Wasting My Time." _Coverdale/Page_ (16 March 1993) Geffen (Coverdale/Page) Shake My Tree, Waiting On You, Take Me For A Little While, Pride And Joy, Over Now, Feeling Hot, Easy Does It, Take A Look At Yourself, Don't Leave Me This Way, Absolution Blues, Whisper A Prayer For The Dying (Jimmy Page--acoustic and electric 6 & 12-string guitars, dulcimer, harmonica & other stringed instruments, David Coverdale--vocals and acoustic guitar, Ricky Phillips & Jorge Casas--bass, Denny Carmassi--drums, John Harris--harmonica, Lester Mendez--keyboards) Videos for "Pride & Joy" and "Take Me For A Little While" have been released. In the "Pride & Joy" video, Page is playing (among a range of acoustic and electric guitars--including the doubleneck) a dulcimer. An upcoming EP release with songs not on the album was mentioned by both Page and Coverdale. 5 or 6 songs (including one entitled "Saccharine") are left, according to a Guitar World interview. The cover (done by Hugh Syme, who does Rush's covers (among others')) features a merge sign in a variety of locations. Coverdale: "This is the traffic sign that means two roads joining to one road. We were trying to express _unification_ or _joining together_." The band has broken up; Page going on to work with Plant, Coverdale reforming Whitesnake, and touring bassist Guy Pratt rejoining Pink Floyd on tour. "Take Me For A Little While" b/w "Easy Does It" 7" single (1993) Geffen "Take Me For A Little While" Limited Edition 12" single (September 1993) EMI/Geffen Take Me For A Little While (album version), Take Me For A Little While (acoustic version), Take Me For A Little While (edit), Shake My Tree (guitar crunch mix) A picture disk, with a two-sided poster sleeve. "Take Me For A Little While" cassette single (November 1993) Geffen Take Me For A Little While, Easy Does It "Take Me For A Little While" CD single (September 1993) EMI/Geffen Take Me For A Little While (album version), Take Me For A Little While (acoustic version), Take Me For A Little While (edit), Shake My Tree (guitar crunch mix) "Take Me For A Little While" Limited Edition CD single (September 1993) EMI/Geffen Take Me For A Little While (album version), Take Me For A Little While (acoustic version), Take Me For A Little While (edit), Shake My Tree (guitar crunch mix) In a box, with four "art prints" depicting the covers of the various CD singles. "Take A Look At Yourself" Limited Edition CD single (November 1993) EMI/Geffen Take A Look At Yourself (album version), Take A Look At Yourself (acoustic version), Take A Look At Yourself (with girls), Waiting On You -------------------------------------------------------------- 35 - What albums has Robert Plant released? This discography follows the format: _Title_ (release date) Label (artist, if not the subject of the discography) Song Title One, Song Title Two... A list of videos. Any other relevant information. This discography will cover major releases only--most guest appearances will _not_ be included. Also, only new singles and older singles of particular interest will be listed. For a more complete discography, consult _A Celebration_ by Dave Lewis. Pre-Zeppelin: ------------- "You Better Run" b/w "Everybody's Gonna Say" (October 1966) CBS/Columbia 45 with the band Listen "Our Song" b/w "Laughing, Crying, Laughing" (March 1967) CBS 45 "Long Time Coming" b/w "I've Got A Secret" (September 1967) CBS 45 _In The Forest_ (1989) Forest Music compilation with the Band Of Joy on the track "Adriatic Sea View" Mid-Zeppelin: ------------- _The Concerts For Kampuchea_ (February 1981) (various artists) Rockestra Theme, Let It Be, Lucille (all live, with Jones and Bonham), Little Sister (live with Rockpile) A video for "Little Sister" was released. Post-Zeppelin: -------------- _Pictures At Eleven_ (June 1982) Swan Song Burning Down One Side, Moonlight In Samosa, Pledge Pin, Slow Dancer[*], Worse Than Detroit, Fat Lip, Like I've Never Been Gone[*], Mystery Title (Robbie Blunt--guitars, Paul Martinez--bass, Jezz Woodroffe--keys & synths, Phil Collins & [*]Cozy Powell--drums, Raphael Ravenscroft-- saxophone) A video for "Burning Down One Side" was released. _The Principle Of Moments_ (June 1983) Es Paranza Other Arms, In The Mood, Messin' With The Mekon, Wreckless Love, Thru With The Two Step, Horizontal Departure, Stranger Here...Than Over There, Big Log (Robbie Blunt--guitars, Paul Martinez--bass, Jezz Woodroffe-- keyboards, Phil Collins & Barriemore Barlow--drums, John David & Ray Martinez--backing vocals) Videos for "In The Mood" and "Big Log" were released. The title refers to physics (as in "moments of inertia.") _The Honeydrippers Volume One_ (October 1984) Es Paranza (The Honeydrippers) I Get A Thrill, Sea Of Love, I Got A Woman, Young Boy Blues, Rockin' At Midnight Videos were released for "Sea Of Love" and "Rockin' At Midnight." Jimmy Page plays guitar on "Sea Of Love" and "I Get A Thrill." Jeff Beck plays guitar on "Rockin' At Midnight." _Shaken N' Stirred_ (May 1985) Es Paranza Hip To Hoo, Kallalou Kallalou, Too Loud, Trouble Your Money, Pink And Black, Little By Little, Doo Doo A Do Do, Easily Lead, Sixes And Sevens (Robbie Blunt--guitars and synthesized guitars, Paul Martinez-- bass & guitar, Jezz Woodroffe--keyboards, Ritchie Hayward--drums, Toni Halliday--backing vocals) Videos were relased for "Little By Little" and "Pink And Black." _Little By Little Collectors' Edition_ (1985) Es Paranza Little By Little (remix), Easily Lead (live), Rockin' At Midnight (live), Sixes And Sevens _Porky's Revenge_ (1985) CBS (soundtrack) Philadelphia Baby (under the name Crawling King Snakes) _White Nights_ (1985) Atlantic (soundtrack) Far Post _Now And Zen_ (March 1988) Es Paranza Heaven Knows[*], Dance On My Own, Tall Cool One[*], The Way I Feel, Helen Of Troy, Billy's Revenge, Ship Of Fools, Why, White Clean And Neat, Walking Towards Paradise (CD only) (Doug Boyle--guitars, Phil Scragg--bass, Phil Johnstone--keyboards & guitar, Chris Blackwell--drums & percussion, Toni Halliday & Marie Pierre & Kristy MacColl--backing vocals, Jimmy Page[*]-- guitar solos, Jerry Wayne--voiceover on "White, Clean, And Neat") Videos for "Heaven Knows," "Ship Of Fools," and "Tall Cool One" were released. "Ship Of Fools" CD single (September 1988) Es Paranza Ship Of Fools, Helen Of Troy (live), Dimples (live) _Outrider_ (June 1988) Geffen (Jimmy Page) The Only One _Manic Nirvana_ (March 1990) Es Paranza Hurting Kind (I've Got My Eyes On You), Big Love, SSS&Q, I Cried, She Said, Nirvana, Tie Die On The Highway, Your Ma Said You Cried In Your Sleep Last Night, Anniversary, Liar's Dance, Watching You (Doug Boyle--guitars, Charlie Jones--bass, Phil Johnstone--keyboards & guitars, Chris Blackwell--drums & guitars, Siddi Makain Mushkin & Laila Cohen & Caroline Harding & Mickey Groome & Rob Stride--backing vocals) Videos for "Hurting Kind" and "Nirvana" were released. The "noise" on "Your Ma..." is from the sampled drum track of the original song, by Schlaks & Glaser. _Manic Nirvana Limited Edition_ (1990) Es Paranza A red digipak (featuring Plant's wolf logo on the cover), a specially-printed CD (with the red wolf logo again), pictures of the band and Plant in the liner notes, and packaged with a red tapestry with the wolf logo and "Robert Plant" in black lettering. "Hurting Kind" CD single (March 1990) Es Paranza Hurting Kind, I Cried, Oompah (Watery Bint) "Hurting Kind" CD single (March 1990) Es Paranza Hurting Kind, Don't Look Back, Oompah (Watery Bint), One Love "Your Ma Said You Cried In Your Sleep Last Night" CD single (June 1990) Es Paranza Your Ma Said...(remix), Your Ma Said...(album version), She Said, One Love _The Last Temptation Of Elvis_ (1990) NME (various artists) Let's Have A Party _Knebworth: The Album_ (July 1990) Polygram (various artists) Hurting Kind, Liar's Dance, Tall Cool One, Wearing And Tearing (with Jimmy Page) _Fate Of Nations_ (June 1993) Es Paranza Calling To You, Down To The Sea, Come Into My Life, I Believe, 29 Palms, Memory Song (Hello Hello), If I Were A Carpenter, Promised Land, The Greatest Gift, Great Spirit, Network News (Robert Plant--vocals, guitar, harmonica, Doug Boyle--guitar, Francis Dunnery--guitar, Phil Johnstone--guitar, harmonium, piano, electric piano, organ, vocals, "electric orchestra," Kevin Scott MacMichael--guitar, vocals, Richard Thompson--guitar, Oliver J. Woods--guitar, Charlie Jones--bass, Chris Blackwell--drums, Chris Hughes--drums, Michael Lee--drums, Pete Thompson--drums, Martin Allcock--mandolin, Phillip Andrews--keyboards, Nigel Eaton--hurdy- gurdy, Nigel Kennedy--violin, Navazish Ali Khan--violin, Gurdev Singh--dilruba, sarod, Sursie Singh--sarangi, Rainer Ptacek--steel guitar, Maire Brennan--vocals, John Flynn--vocals, Steve French-- vocals, Julian Taylor--vocals, Lynton Naiff--string arrangements) Videos for "Calling To You," "29 Palms," and "I Believe" have been released. The European version of the album contains a track not on the US version, entitled "Colours Of A Shade". "If I Were A Carpenter" is a Tim Hardin song. "29 Palms" cassingle (June 1993) Es Paranza 29 Palms, Whole Lotta Love "29 Palms" CD single (June 1993) Es Paranza (paper-cover) 29 Palms, Whole Lotta Love "29 Palms" CD single (June 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza (jewel box) 29 Palms, 21 Years, Dark Moon "29 Palms" CD single Limited Edition (June 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza (digipak) 29 Palms, 21 Years, Dark Moon, Whole Lotta Love "Calling To You" CD single (September 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza (jewel box) Calling To You, Naked If I Want To, 8'05 "Calling To You" CD single (September 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza (digipak) 5 mixes of "Calling To You"--Song To Kalsoum, Shookran Sah- Abi, Always My Heart, Artist's Valley, Per La Gente "Calling To You" 12" single (September 1993) Es Paranza Contents unknown "I Believe" cassingle (November 1993) Es Paranza I Believe, Dark Moon "I Believe" CD single (September 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza I Believe, Great Spirit (acoustic), Hey Jayne This CD single is the companion to the limited edition "29 Palms" CD single. "If I Were A Carpenter" CD single #1 (December 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza If I Were A Carpenter, Ship Of Fools (live), Tall Cool One (live) The live tracks are from Montreaux. "If I Were A Carpenter" CD single #2 (December 1993) Fontana/Es Paranza If I Were A Carpenter, I Believe (live), Going To California (live) The live tracks are from Montreaux. _Fearless_ (July 1994) Atlantic (Francis Dunnery) Plant plays harmonica on unspecified tracks. _Adios Amigo_ (September 1994) Razor & Tie (various artists) If It's Really Got To Be This Way This album is a tribute to R&B songwriter Arthur Alexander. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 36 - What albums has John Paul Jones released? This discography follows the format: _Title_ (release date) Label (artist, if not the subject of the discography) Song Title One, Song Title Two... A list of videos. Any other relevant information. This discography will cover major releases only--most guest appearances will _not_ be included. Also, only new singles and older singles of particular interest will be listed. For a more complete discography, consult _A Celebration_ by Dave Lewis. Pre-Zeppelin: ------------- "Baja" b/w "A Foggy Day In Vietnam" (April 1964) Pye/Parkway The second track is an Andrew Loog Oldham composition that doesn't feature Jones at all, but _may_ feature some of the Rolling Stones. _Little Games_ (1967) Epic/MFP (The Yardbirds) Jones arranging and contributing session bass work. Mid-Zeppelin: ------------- _No Introduction Necessary_ (1968) Spark/Thunderbolt (various artists) Unspecified tracks, with Jimmy Page. _Truth_ (1968) Columbia (Jeff Beck) Old Man River (organ) _Dusty...Definitely_ (1968) Fontana (Dusty Springfield) Unknown. _Comin' Atcha'_ (December 1973) RCA (Madeline Bell) JPJ on bass and keys; also produced and recorded at his home studio. _H.Q._ (June 1975) Harvest (Roy Harper) The Game _Back To The Egg_ (May 1979) EMI/MPL (Paul McCartney & Wings) Rockestra Theme, So Glad To See You Here (both with Bonham) _The Concerts For Kampuchea_ (February 1981) (various artists) Rockestra Theme, Let It Be, Lucille (all live, with Plant and Bonham) Post-Zeppelin: -------------- _Give My Regards To Broadstreet_ (October 1984) EMI/MPL (soundtrack) Ballroom Dancing _Scream For Help_ (March 1985) Atlantic (soundtrack) Spaghetti Junction[*], Bad Child, Silver Train[@], Crackback[*], Chilli Sauce, Take It Or Leave It[$], Christie[@], When You Fall In Love[#], Here I Am[$] (John Paul Jones--vocals, guitars, bass, drums, keyboards, Colin Green--guitars, Graham Ward--drums, [$]Madeline Bell--vocals, [#]John Renbourn--guitars, [@]Jon Anderson--vocals, [*]Jimmy Page--guitars) _Save The Last Dance For Me_ (March 1988) EMI/Manhattan (Ben E. King) Because Of Last Night, Whatever This Is (It Ain't True Love), Two Loves _Children_ (March 1988) Mercury (The Mission) Keys and production. _Music From Films_ (1988) Opal Land (various artists) Three Minute Warning _Us_ (1992) Geffen (Peter Gabriel) Fourteen Black Paintings Jones played all keyboards on the listed track. _Independent Worm Saloon_ (1993) Capitol (Butthole Surfers) Production and some bass. _The Sporting Life (6 September 1994) Mute (John Paul Jones & Diamanda Galas) Skotoseme, Do You Take This Man?, Dark End Of The Street, You're Mine, Tony, Devil's Rodeo, The Sporting Life, Baby's Insane, Last Man Down, Hex (Diamanda Galas--vocals, organ, and piano, John Paul Jones--basses and steel guitar, Pete Thomas--drums) A video for "Do You Take This Man?" has been aired. "Do You Take This Man?" CD single (September 1994) Mute (John Paul Jones & Diamanda Galas) Do You Take This Man?, (other tracks unavailable) ----------------------------------------------------------------- 37 - Who were the other artists on the Swan Song label? Swan Song artists included Bad Company, Pretty Things, Maggie Bell, Detective, Dave Edmunds, Midnight Flyer, Wildlife, Robert Plant, and Jimmy Page. Signed but unreleased artists included Mirabai and Metropolis. Bobby Parker was never signed, though considered. Richie Sambora claims he was signed to Swan Song for a time, as do members of the Kentucky Headhunters. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 38 - Are there any Led Zeppelin tribute bands? Physical Graffiti -- tours mostly the east coast of the US, and very faithful to both costume and stage presence. Musically strong, as well. (203) 231-9432 is their hotline (for tour information), and booking information can be obtained from their office number (203) 231-9434 or from their agent (Flash Group) at (203) 739-3941. No Quarter -- defunct, but responsible for the acoustic backing on the oft-mistaken "acoustic Black Dog" track appearing on many bootlegs. Presence Prezence -- apparently from the Chicago area. Described as intense, loud, and quite excellent. Led Zepagain -- Booking info: Barra Cuda Ent. P.O. Box 121 Anaheim, CA 92815 Tel/Fax (714) 991-5065 Voice mail (714) 490-7050. Tracy Longo--guitar Other personnel unknown. Let's Eppelin--from Jyvaskyla, Finland. Formed in the late 1980s, tours Finland and Estonia. They've released two albums--an EP entitled _Promo EP_ and a full-length self-titled CD. The current lineup is: Jukka Viitasaari--guitar, Jorma Hietamaki--vocals, Pekka Lampinen--bass, Asko Vikki--drums. More info on these bands would be appreciated. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 39 - What's up with the Led Zeppelin tribute album? It should be out in January 1995. Among the artists believed to be contributing are Tori Amos with Robert Plant ("Down By The Seaside"). 4 Non Blondes ("Misty Mountain Hop"), Helmet ("Custard Pie"), Rollins Band ("Four Sticks"), Lenny Kravitz, Tesla, Stone Temple Pilots, Sting, Cracker, Aerosmith, and Duran Duran. Tori Amos: "It's very different. We do it kind of like `Riders in the Storm.' It was a jam, so it's eight minutes. He played guitar, I played piano, and two of the guys that are now in the band that he's in with Jimmy Page, this is the project they're doing together, the bass player and the drummer, who have been with Robert, I think, for a little while. Anyway, it was just kind of neato. I showed up, and we kind of rehearsed, and I threw in a section and he threw in a section that hadn't been in before. I kind of went, `God, I really want to do this part.' I thought the melody was different from what it was. In the shower, I always sang this different melody. But I was so married to it that I just made it my part. They rolled tape, and we were finished, and we all went and listened and said, `Where's the Indian takeout? This is finished.' It was kind of like -- it was so neat, because I waited all my life for that. So I stored up 20 years of estrogen. But that's coming out in January." Artists that have apparently turned down the invitation include Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, and Soundgarden. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 40 - All about _The Song Retains The Name_ (I & II). The first is a collection of Zeppelin covers by rock/metal bands. It _may_ be available from: Mad Rover Records Dept. CZ, Box 22243 Sacremento, CA 95822 Track listing: Black Dog The Royal Mixxers with KGIG and Konan Kelley Living Loving Maid Rich Hardesty & The Del Reys (She's Just A Woman) Down By The Seaside Robert Kuhlmann & Flying Boats Good Times, Bad Times Dalai Lamas Four Sticks Earwigs Immigrant Song Headface In The Evening Twice Shy No Quarter I Love Ethyl What Is And What Helen Keller Plaid Should Never Be Houses Of The Holy Fool Killers Rock And Roll Tent Poles The second is on Safe House records, and available from them at: Safe House P.O. Box 5349 W. Lebanon, NH 03784-5349 Track listing: Dancing Days Bad Livers Misty Mountain Hop 7 Second Houses Of The Holy Folkadelic Tangerine When Skip Jack Tripped Kashmir The Ordinaires When The Levee Breaks Mojo Nixon & The Toadliquors Out On The Tiles Helen Keller Plaid Trampled Underfoot Michael Hall The Wanton Song Whyos D'yer Mak'er Alluring Strange Friends Men and Volts Ramble On The Dusty Diamonds (featuring The Delevantes) Misty Mountain Hop/The Elephant Walk (instrumental reprise) Hot Joe ----------------------------------------------------------------- 41 - Who is Dread Zeppelin and how does the band feel about them? Dread Zeppelin are a group of musicians playing rock/reggae, often covering Zeppelin and/or Elvis songs. Their albums (there are three) have contained progressively less Zeppelin content. They were, at the outset, extremely satirical in nature. Page hates them. Plant loves them. Jones' opinion has not been noted but is almost assuredly the same as Plant's. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 42 - Did Jimmy Page invent bowing? No. It was suggested to him by a session violinist (whose father was the actor David McCallum), but it had been done before. His bow work can be found on the Yardbirds track "Glimpses," and the Zeppelin songs "How Many More Times," "Dazed & Confused," and "In The Evening." ----------------------------------------------------------------- 43 - What's this "theremin" thing that Jimmy Page uses? This is the first device to use alternative means of interaction to produce...er...music (sort of). It was invented by Leo Theremin, a Russian living in England, in the 1930's, and was made popular in the 1960's by Sun Ra. The instrument produces sine-wave sounds by the beat frequencies between a reference RF oscillator and an oscillator tuned by the change in capacitance between a antenna and the performer's hands, arms or body caused by movement. The closer one comes to the antenna, the higher the capacitance and higher the pitch. Later versions of the instrument have volume control from a second antenna. Page uses the theremin live during "Whole Lotta Love" and "No Quarter," and occasionally elsewhere. It was also prominent in the studio version of "WLL". The theremin is used at the beginning of Beach Boys' song "Good Vibrations". It is considered by many to be the first synthesizer. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 44 - Is Jimmy Page a Satanist? Jimmy Page is a collector of occult books and paraphenalia. He is interested in religion and spirituality to the extent that he considered "...getting a degree in theology." He was a devotee of Aleister Crowley, a famous English occultist (and, perhaps, Satanist) to the point of buying Crowley's old residence. He often quoted Crowley, most notably on the runoff matrix of _III_. So is he a Satanist? He says no, the band says no. There is no profit in further speculation. Rumours persist that the band "sold their souls" to Satan in exchange for power, fame, wealth, etc., and that Jones was the only one to refuse. The various disasters which have befallen the band are often used to support this theory. However, there is absolutely no evidence for this, the band denies it, and in the words of Zeppelin biographer Charles Cross: "Rereading these comments, while lying in a room that Jimmy Page, the person -- the human being -- once occupied, I can't believe the heartlessness, the meanness, the utter inhumanity of those remarks. From mud sharks to pacts with Satan, the public seems to suspend normal human empathy when talking about Led Zeppelin, accepting preposterous malice of the sort that would never be accepted if it were directed toward anyone outside of rock 'n' roll. Have you heard anyone describe a successful business executive as having sold his soul to Satan? Wouldn't we laugh this comment off instantly if applied to anyone else, anyone working in any other art form? Can one _really_ believe that a pact with Satan is possible, and if so isn't _that_ the big story here?" ----------------------------------------------------------------- 45 - Are there backwards messages in "Stairway To Heaven"? You're far from the first to ask. This rumor has persisted ever since a California committee of parents and religious leaders set out to prove that rock music was leading our children down the path to the devil. For reasons still unknown to rational minds, they decided to play some albums backwards, and professed to hear all sorts of messages in songs like Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust," anything and everything by Styx and ELO, Rush's "Anthem," the Stones' "19th Nervous Breakdown," Skynyrd's "Freebird," The Eagles' "Hotel California," and most notably the (at that point) most-requested rock song of all time, Led Zeppelin's "Stairway To Heaven." A definition is useful here -- "backmasking" is the process of either: 1) recording a backwards message on a track meant to be played forwards, or 2) the "hiding" of messages within forward phrases so that, when played backwards, another phrase is revealed. So does backmasking exist? Andy Johns, the producer of _IV_, says that not only is "backmasking" a myth, but that there was no such nonsense while he was present. Certainly, since the advent of the "backmasking" scandal, groups such as ELO and Pink Floyd have used the technique to poke fun at people who would actually play records backwards. Most of the bands named in such accusations tend to ignore the outcry, for as Jones commented in _Rolling Stone_, there's absolutely no arguing someone out of something they really want to believe. But the idea of backmasking is uniformly considered ludicrous by musicians and producers alike, and they're the ones that would be responsible for the process. Despite the denials of the people involved, let's assume that these messages do exist. Are they effective? If they were subliminal messages played _forward_, then scientists agree that the brain could and would process the information. But scientists are also convinced that the brain cannot decipher backwards information unless it is specifically engaged for that purpose. Therefore, even if backmasking _did_ exist, it would be useless. So much for Satanic intent. And specifically, as regards "Stairway To Heaven" -- there are many messages that various groups have claimed to hear while playing the song backwards, but the most uniformly cited is the phrase "Here's to my sweet Satan." Not all listeners that hear backward phrases are in agreement here, however, and not even close to all who hear the song backwards hear any message at all. Many of those who do hear "something" dismiss it as a mere phonetic coincidence. And few of those who _do_ hear the actual message were unaware of the accusations against Zeppelin and "Stairway To Heaven" before they listened to the song. Therefore, overwhelming evidence supports the conclusion that such messages do not exist, and if they did they would be useless, and even if they weren't they are almost assuredly accidents aided by the power of suggestion. But still, this rumor will not die. Often, a listener will comment, "I heard the message, and it's really there, but I think it's just an accident." This is faulty reasoning. If the message is a phonetic accident, then the message is not really "there"--instead, a series of sounds that are _similar_ to the phrase "here's to my sweet Satan" are all that are embedded in the lyrics. If the message _is_ really there, then it cannot be an accident, for a phonetic reversal of the lyrics ("There's still time to change the road you're on") does not produce the correct vowel and consonant sounds (even _given_ Plant's pronunciation) for the phrase in question. So unless one believes that the message is there on purpose (despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary), one _must_ conclude that the message is not "there"--purposefully or accidentally. Perhaps it is relevant to note that the same committee that found "STH" to be Satanic in nature also claimed that the theme song from the "Mr. Ed" TV show is full of Satanic messages when played backwards. When first presented with the charge, Swan Song issued this statement: "Our turntables play in only one direction." Shortly thereafter, Plant noted "...negativity of any kind is best ignored. Even asking that question encourages this kind of negative speculation. How could anyone sing backwards? It's complete bunkum--it can't be done. Only Americans would come up with something that ridiculous. [...] Why don't people take up swimming or squash if they're bored?" Several years later, in a _Rolling Stone_ interview, the three surviving members of Zeppelin (assembled for interviews about the first boxed set) had this to say: Page: "Well, I don't pass any comments on them..." Plant: "I mean, who on earth would have ever thought of doing that in the first place? You've got to have a lot of time on your hands to even consider that people would do that. Especially with 'Stairway To Heaven.' I mean, we were so proud of that thing, and its intentions are so positive... I found it foul, the whole idea...but it's very American. Nowhere else in the world has anybody ever considered it, or been concerned or bothered at all about that. I figure if backward masking really worked, every album in the store would have 'Buy this album!' hidden on it." Page: "You've got it, you've hit the nail on the head. And that's all there is to say about it." Jones: "Of course it's fatal, you know, because you tend to wind these people up after a while. If you go around saying, 'Oh yes, if you play track eight at thirty-six rpm, you'll definitely hear a message,' they'll go right home and try it. English bands tend to be more ironic and sarcastic, and once they discovered the average lack of American irony and humour, it's just sitting ducks, really. You just sort of have to go for it." (Sincere thanks to the MIT Psych. Dept., the MIT Brain & Cog. Sci. Dept., and the Boston Globe for assistance.) ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- A few notes: -- This is a FAQL, _not_ an obscure Led Zeppelin trivia file. -- Information will be added to or deleted from this file as it becomes necessary, or at the whim of the author. -- This incredibly long and wordy document was authored by Thor Iverson, with help from the members of Digital Graffiti and a _lot_ of help from Dave Lewis (thanks Dave). Contact Thor at email@example.com with comments, additions, corrections, etc. -- This work is copyrighted (1994) by Thor Iverson. This file may be freely distributed on any network. Hardcopies may be produced for personal use _only_. This list may _not_ be distributed for profit, monetary or otherwise; nor may any part of it be excerpted for profit without the expressed written or email consent of the author or the author's duly-appointed representative. -- A very, very special thank you to "Speed Racer". -- Sincere thanks to Tim Ames, Atlantic Records, Mike Bacigalupi, Charlie Brown, Jim Browne, Mike Corso, Brian Davies, Bryan Durall, J.D. Falk, Martin Halpern, Scott Hannon, John Harper, Jody Hay, Dave Heller, Matt Hill, Bill Hunter, Mike Hutchinson, Colin Irwin, Hugh Jones, Steve Kilpatrick, Jeff Lester, Johnathan Leybovich, Matt Link, Maurice Maes, Simon Marwood, Chris Milazzo, Steve Moore, Mark Nyhus, Steve Pinder, Risto Pohjonen, Steve Portigal, Laurance Ratner, Kevin Rauch, Steve Rospo, Toshiaki Tanaka, Michael Thompson, Shawn Sarazin, Denis Shortall, Cliff Weaver, Steven Wheeler, Christopher Williams, and all others who've helped. 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